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Old 04-19-2009, 02:13 AM   #1
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how good of a guitarist was kurt cobain

How good of a guitarist was he? Was he good enough? Like do people here are better than him? just wondering
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Old 04-19-2009, 02:17 AM   #2
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He was alright I guess
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Old 04-19-2009, 02:18 AM   #3
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he was good enough for his purposes, but im pretty confident that most guitarists here surpassed kurt's level of playing
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Old 04-19-2009, 02:19 AM   #4
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some of the riffs on bleach are hard to play, i think he's a better songwriter than guitarist.
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Old 04-19-2009, 02:19 AM   #5
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his guitar playing was ok, but his greater expertise lied in songwriting
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Old 04-19-2009, 02:23 AM   #6
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.......he didn't answer.
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Old 04-19-2009, 02:30 AM   #7
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Old 04-19-2009, 02:32 AM   #8
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Kurt Cobain wasn't a great musician. He just had tons of personality and charisma and that's what drew the people to him. If you see the live videos, he was often too f***ed to play, but the crowd enjoyed his show anyway.

B.t.w. I have a 14y.o. daughter who thinks Cobain is the greatest and she wasn't even born yet when he pulled the plug.
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Old 04-19-2009, 02:44 AM   #10
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Old 04-19-2009, 02:53 AM   #11
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Kurt Cobain wasn't a great musician. He just had tons of personality and charisma and that's what drew the people to him. If you see the live videos, he was often too f***ed to play, but the crowd enjoyed his show anyway.

B.t.w. I have a 14y.o. daughter who thinks Cobain is the greatest and she wasn't even born yet when he pulled the plug.

I'm more technically proficient than Kurt Cobain was at guitar. Yet he's sold more records than me. Therefore, I can only concur that Kurt>Me. And that being the case, he is clearly a better guitarist than I am, since he used HIS guitar to enterain far more people than I did. As for his personality and charisma.. His reclusive interviewing and putting his guitar out of tune on purpose to piss off his fans seems to disagree.
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Old 04-19-2009, 03:24 AM   #12
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I think Kurt was a far better songwriter and lyricist, than a guitar player. But Kurt did have a real gift for music, i am sure he could have played the most complicated of material if he wanted. But instead he took simplicity and really made it work! He cared more about the melody and the hook in a song than the complexity of it. Look at Nevermind, the entire album is based around simple riffs and basic power chord, but has sold 26 million copies because of the image and sound! He had to do something right! But as far is technically goes he was not the best guitar player ever, if you watch videos and study his playing technique it was not considered correct, yet he spent more time practicing the guitar than probably 98% of the people on this forum. He had a different view on music, and arpeggios, sweeps, scales and fingerpicking didnt fit in to what he was trying to create...
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Old 04-19-2009, 12:29 PM   #13
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I'm more technically proficient than Kurt Cobain was at guitar. Yet he's sold more records than me. Therefore, I can only concur that Kurt>Me. And that being the case, he is clearly a better guitarist than I am, since he used HIS guitar to enterain far more people than I did. As for his personality and charisma.. His reclusive interviewing and putting his guitar out of tune on purpose to piss off his fans seems to disagree.

Not really sure that's a good argument.
I do think he was a great guitarist, but people like the Jonas Brothers are not, and yet they entertain plenty of fans.
Music shouldn't be about entertainment, and some of the best guitarists have only been heard by a few hundred people, whereas some really terrible ones have worlwide recognition.
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Old 04-19-2009, 12:58 PM   #14
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Not really sure that's a good argument.
I do think he was a great guitarist, but people like the Jonas Brothers are not, and yet they entertain plenty of fans.
Music shouldn't be about entertainment, and some of the best guitarists have only been heard by a few hundred people, whereas some really terrible ones have worlwide recognition.


But the jonas brothers aren't actually playing their guitars, they are just pretending to. And they dont entertain people, they entertain mindless little 12 year old disney fangirls (demons).

Kurt actually had talent, unlike what many people on UG will tell you. He could play some complicated things (look up Nirvana's Heartbreaker cover) but he usually didn't because it wouldn't fit the music. Just think of it this way, would a EVH-like solo fit any Nirvana songs?

Also TS, take it to the Nirvana thread. Then again, dont, we just discussed this crap a few days ago in there and im sick of the arguement.
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Old 04-19-2009, 01:11 PM   #15
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He's not a great guitarist, but he's a great musician. It's sort of the "Generation X" attitude to blur the two together into the same thing, I believe.
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Old 04-19-2009, 01:55 PM   #16
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Great songwriter and singer... i guess in technical terms not a brilliant guitar player HOWEVER.

I don't know how he managed it but he seems to have the ability to play the guitar whilst it is in full swinging motion around his head.. when i play i can only move about a little bit but somehow Kurt can through himself around the stage and still play his song properly.
I kind of admire him for that because that's what i love to see when i see bands, a bit of excitement and he surely does that live!
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Old 04-21-2009, 10:47 PM   #17
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I second the thought that he was mostly a songwriter. When you look at his famous tunes, the guitar is backing the song. Pretty much the only reason to him too, is for his guitar lines.
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Not really sure that's a good argument.
I do think he was a great guitarist, but people like the Jonas Brothers are not, and yet they entertain plenty of fans.
Music shouldn't be about entertainment, and some of the best guitarists have only been heard by a few hundred people, whereas some really terrible ones have worlwide recognition.

I'm sorry, what does that have to do with anything? A good guitarist is someone who can use their guitar to entertain people. If they can't do that, then they're a bad guitarist. I don't really see what other qualifications are necessary for being a good guitar player. If I sit in a room and play very technically well, but bore people, did I do my job as a guitarist? No. Therefore, I'm not very good. It really is as simple as that.
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Old 04-22-2009, 09:17 AM   #19
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the fact that Kurt could be trippin balls on heroin and still manage to perform makes him a pretty good guitarist in my books.

its silly to say that he is a mediocre guitarist simply because his songs are easy to play.
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Meh, everybody has different opinions on what "good guitarist" means. Lemme see if I can put this to bed:

Songwriting ability = Good (ignoring for a second the notion that he stole riffs, which may or may not be true)
Technical ability = Low (though maybe he's just hiding it)
Ability to play guitar while swinging it around is head = Good (though anyone can do that with enough distortion )
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