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Old 06-25-2009, 09:38 AM   #41
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I don't know too much classical, I need to get more into it, but Chopin all up in this motherfucker.

Also, whatever the shit that Bach organ piece is, I think it's a fugue, that has that insanely gr1m main theme.


Tocatta y Fugue in D Minor, one of the few things classical I listen to
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Old 06-25-2009, 09:45 AM   #42
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Post rock is very far away from Classical, as is a lot of Metal.

People just try to feel important by making a comparison to Classical.

Have you heard Mono's Hymn of the Immortal Wind?
I'll assume you have.
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Old 06-25-2009, 09:50 AM   #43
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Richard Wagner:


So metal, that he was friends with Friedrich Nietzsche.
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Old 06-25-2009, 10:45 AM   #44
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Someone mentioned Mahler?

My favorite Mahler peice would be this one:


Mahler's sixth in A minor.

The powerful intro always gives me the chills. I'm seriously considering ripping it off for a song I've been working on


That would have been me that mentioned Mahler, honestly people check out my GP5 file gawd.

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Richard Wagner: So metal, that he was friends with Friedrich Nietzsche.


Yeah up until the time that Wagner treated his wife so badly by chasing after other married women and neglecting her that she killed herself. As well as a number of anti semitic stances which eventually caused Nietzsche to call him an untalanted manipulative hack.

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Old 06-25-2009, 12:39 PM   #45
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Hey conservationist, im a member on Talkclassical like you, under the name Emiellucifuge!

ANyway yes been listening to classical a lot along with metal.

Holst, Fibich, Miaskovsky.

Generally love russian or eastern european composers.

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Old 06-25-2009, 05:12 PM   #46
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Have you heard Mono's Hymn of the Immortal Wind?
I'll assume you have.


Yes. Respectable, but adopting instruments and sounds of the era is far from the actual music itself.
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Old 06-25-2009, 08:54 PM   #47
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Great thread, I'm just starting to get into classical music. Last night in my bed before sleeping, I listened to Brahm's Symphony #2 (downloaded from anus.com forums no less Conservationist, hehe) in its entirety. Fantastic stuff.
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Old 06-26-2009, 12:15 AM   #48
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mahler's titan is amazing... and nietzsche wrote a book late in his life called, nietzsche vs. wagner, and hated him...
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Old 06-26-2009, 12:17 AM   #49
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mahler's titan is amazing... and nietzsche wrote a book late in his life called, nietzsche vs. wagner, and hated him...


Yes, like I just said two posts above.
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Old 06-26-2009, 04:15 PM   #50
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I've been admiring this piece of music lately.

Gustav Holst - Mars, The Bringer of War

Listening to it now, the bit at 1:20 is great
What other 'the planets' songs are good?

Cool avatar by the way
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Old 06-26-2009, 04:30 PM   #51
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Venus and Jupiter are great as well. Mars will always be my favorite, though.
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Old 06-26-2009, 06:29 PM   #52
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Listening to it now, the bit at 1:20 is great
What other 'the planets' songs are good?

Cool avatar by the way

Saturn and Neptune are the other I like the most, not as as dark and powerful as Mars though.

But you should take the time to listen through them all in their correct order.
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Old 06-26-2009, 08:22 PM   #53
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Both genres work well together. I wonder if someone has ever attempted turning Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata into a metal song.
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Old 06-26-2009, 08:59 PM   #54
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Old 06-26-2009, 09:21 PM   #55
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I dont listen to straight works of composers, but I do like to hear very classical influenced metal music, or even metal that breaks off into a classical section in the middle of the song. Perfect example..... FLESHGOD APOCALYPSE If you don't know em, look em up on youtube
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Old 06-26-2009, 09:27 PM   #56
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Yeah, classically-influenced death metal is pretty killer.

0:45 of "Uncle Damfee"-Spawn of Possession just screamed out "awesome" the first time I heard it:
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Old 06-26-2009, 09:38 PM   #57
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I saw someone complain that classical music is far removed from most post-hardcore and metal. While that is true to some extent, I would like to make a point. Most metal music is simply a baroque-style composition. There is usually a single important melody or riff which is supported by a simple countermelody or riff at times.

Also, more complex baroque music is comparable to metal in terms of technical difficulty. For example, the ever popular Summer from Vivaldi's Four Seasons is a very fast song (tempo markings range from 160-220 bpm, which is by no means slow) with complicated melodies and countermelodies. If this song was palyed by a modern metal band, it would more likely then not fit in perfectly and blow people's minds.

For those who have not heard Summer, here's a link:

The part I'm talking about begins at 5:28, but I recommend listening to all of it. It's quite pretty.
Also, another very good example, also from Vivaldi, is the Winter Concerto. The first movement is a similarly fast and complicated piece that is considered very difficult to play by all but the most advanced performers. Here's a link, the fast bit starts at the beginning. It's quiet at first, but that doesn't stay a problem for long:
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Old 06-26-2009, 09:48 PM   #58
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^ I concur.

I dont listen to much classical, but I do like what I've heard quite a bit. I love the way Chopin is used in Pensees Nocturnes songs.
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Old 06-27-2009, 12:49 AM   #59
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Can someone please explain to me the meaning of a counterpoint?
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Old 06-27-2009, 12:57 AM   #60
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Can someone please explain to me the meaning of a counterpoint?


Two (or sometimes more) melodies played simultaneously, which have been designed to create a new "master" melody when put together. Many rules and guidelines about counterpoint were established in the baroque period, in particular J.S. Bach had a huge hand in writing the rules of counterpoint.

By some it is considered the most important aspect of harmony. I disagree, but there are those out there that would prefer to teach counterpoint over harmony if that were given the chance.
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