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Old 05-03-2010, 02:16 AM   #1
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Filing down frets, flush with fret-board for a fretless neck? The Nut?? Intonation???

if i filed down the frets on the neck, so that all of the crown was gone
i'd have a fretless-neck
with markers, even

and how does intonation work with a fretless? the same way?

would i compensate the Nut as well??
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Old 05-03-2010, 02:47 AM   #2
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if i filed down the frets on the neck, so that all of the crown was gone
i'd have a fretless-neck
with markers, even
no, you'd have a mess. the tang of the fret is not smooth and it doesn't fill the fretslots completely. don't even think of trying to do it this way.
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Old 05-03-2010, 02:50 AM   #3
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no, you'd have a mess. the tang of the fret is not smooth and it doesn't fill the fretslots completely. don't even think of trying to do it this way.


i am going to defy your admonishment

and i'm going to document my ignorant attempt

hahahahaha,

seriously though, wouldn't work? filing the fret down would fill in the gaps in the tang
or i could epoxy the gaps afterwards
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Old 05-03-2010, 02:57 AM   #4
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I agree with the other guy. It would be a pita to file them down and it would look(and probably feel) terrible. You oughta just pull the frets out, smooth the slots with a file, them fill them with an epoxy/contrast wood mixture for markers. Just my .02.
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Old 05-03-2010, 03:30 AM   #5
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I agree with the other guy. It would be a pita to file them down and it would look(and probably feel) terrible. You oughta just pull the frets out, smooth the slots with a file, them fill them with an epoxy/contrast wood mixture for markers. Just my .02.


oh yeah, that sounds better
i was just being a wise-@$$
just for giggles
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Old 05-03-2010, 03:44 AM   #6
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It would take longer to file them down than it would to pull them and fill the slots.

Also how do you expect to file frets fully flush without wrecking the fingerboard?
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Also how do you expect to file frets fully flush without wrecking the fingerboard?


by being very Very VERY careful
and using a very very very sharp, sergical planer tool to shave down the fret crown
and sanding with very fine grit
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That is a terrible idea. There's already a better way to do it, as already said. Yank them out and then fill them with a wood filler or wood strips or epoxy or whatever you want. I personally would fill it with a contrasting colored material so the fret markers would still be there.
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Old 05-03-2010, 05:52 PM   #9
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just any old kind of wood filler or epoxy?
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Old 05-03-2010, 06:08 PM   #10
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i am going to defy your admonishment
Be aware, it isn't an admonishment of you, per se. It's an admonishment of the idea. You can't defy it. It is a bad idea, and will always be a bad idea.

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and i'm going to document my ignorant attempt
Great. It will serve as a splendid "How not to ..." guide.

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hahahahaha,
*shrug*

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seriously though, wouldn't work?
If by "work" you mean would it leave a sharp, jagged piece of metal that doesn't fill the nutslot without gaps, yes it would "work". You won't like the result.

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filing the fret down would fill in the gaps in the tang
No, it won't. Really.

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i could epoxy the gaps afterwards
Wasted time and effort for something that will look and feel dreadful. Look at the way a fret tang is built. The problem you will be creating by this method will be painfully obvious.

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That is a terrible idea. There's already a better way to do it, as already said. Yank them out and then fill them with a wood filler or wood strips or epoxy or whatever you want. I personally would fill it with a contrasting colored material so the fret markers would still be there.
Bold would be the best approach. Wood filler is meant for tiny voids, not something as wide and deep as a fretslot. It will shrink. Epoxy will look bad and be messy. Properly fitted wood strips, glued in place with titebond or hide glue will give the best results, in terms of looks, feel, and durability.
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Old 05-03-2010, 06:39 PM   #11
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i think you've had enough people here say that it is a stupid idea for you to realise that it is, in fact, a stupid idea. do it the proper way. pop them out and fill the gaps with either veneer or filler.

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Old 05-03-2010, 07:20 PM   #12
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Just send it to me. I'd like some practice in pulling frets out!
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Old 07-14-2010, 02:30 PM   #13
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Eh, let him ruin his guitar. He's the one to play it... :P
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