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Old 08-18-2009, 08:51 AM   #1
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Proper setup of Boss NS-2....

I only own 2 pedals, the Boss & my MXR. Once I get another cable, I'll run the MXR through my effects loop and palce the NS-2 between my guitar and amp.

Will it go: Guitar>NS-2>Amp?

I just need to rid myself of my amp's awful feedback
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Old 08-18-2009, 09:00 AM   #2
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I just need to rid myself of my amp's awful feedback


Then you need to put it in your amp's effects loop.
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Old 08-18-2009, 09:10 AM   #3
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Run the noise gate In front of the amp to get rid of feedback - run it In the loop to get rid of hiss.

You can also setup the Boss NS-2 to run both in the loop and in front with the X connection.

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Old 08-18-2009, 09:14 AM   #4
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Run the noise gate In front of the amp to get rid of feedback - run it In the loop to get rid of hiss.

You can also setup the Boss NS-2 to run both in the loop and in front with the X connection.




Ah.

I had it reversed then.


Whups.
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Old 08-18-2009, 09:17 AM   #5
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AHA!

now i need to buy some cables


EDIT: shiaattttt!! just realized JCM2000's have a parallel FX loop. I have the "Send" & "Return" inputs, but will it still work?!
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Old 08-18-2009, 10:35 AM   #6
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a couple points:
(1) the method displayed on the flyer above will only work well* with the decay at full min.
(2) your loop is fine, just set the mix to 100% wet.

*having decay times from your line in repeated in your loop will mimic phasing issues (bad)
...but everyone else seems to love that damn flyer, so wtf ever...
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Old 08-18-2009, 10:40 AM   #7
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a couple points:
(1) the method displayed on the flyer above will only work well* with the decay at full min.
(2) your loop is fine, just set the mix to 100% wet.

*having decay times from your line in repeated in your loop will mimic phasing issues (bad)
...but everyone else seems to love that damn flyer, so wtf ever...

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Old 08-18-2009, 10:49 AM   #8
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forgive my ignorance, but what is 100% wet? and i'd already planned on putting the decay at full minimum. Most all demo vids i saw of the NS-2, people recommended the Decay all the way to Min. because it sucks your sustain and lengthens the signal of your guitar (i believe)
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Old 08-18-2009, 10:59 AM   #9
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...but everyone else seems to love that damn flyer, so wtf ever...


The Boss NS-2 connection diagram is not a "flyer". A flyer is an advertisement leaflet. The connection diagram is an "instructional" document. I think most people are indifferent to diagram because they don't own a Boss NS-2. For those that own and NS-2, this is useful information.

The Internet was invented for the purpose of disseminating information - which is also the primary focus of this forum.

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Old 08-18-2009, 12:18 PM   #10
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wow... thanks for defining "flyer"

maybe we could write to luismcguimaraes@gmail.com to see what his background in the subject matter is, seeing as how he made the flyer, whoever the f*** he is.

...and I'm pretty sure the internet was invented for the purpose of getting free porn into the hands of kids like you who have never been laid.

TS: 100% wet means all of your signal is being sent through your parallel loop. what's the point of a looped gate if you're not going to send all of your signal through it, right?
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Old 08-18-2009, 12:27 PM   #11
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..and I'm pretty sure the internet was invented for the purpose of getting free porn into the hands of kids like you who have never been laid.



Or to quickly transfer data between military bases, or universities, I can't remember which came first. Point being, stop being so freaking immature, both of you.
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Old 08-18-2009, 12:35 PM   #12
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Or to quickly transfer data between military bases, or universities, I can't remember which came first. Point being, stop being so freaking immature, both of you.


The internet was designed by the military to establish quick communication between bases, I believe.

I remember Leo Laporte talking about it on the show he hosted, entitled "Call for Help", on TechTV quite a number of years ago.


TS: I've always ran my NS-2 in front of the amp (guitar>ns-2>amp) and I've never had any problems with feedback.

You can try the diagram that 667 posted if you are interested in running it through the effects loop. I've never done that because I don't have any effects (other than an OD and a wah).
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I think the ISP decimator does a better job.
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The internet was designed by the military to establish quick communication between bases, I believe.

I remember Leo Laporte talking about it on the show he hosted, entitled "Call for Help", on TechTV quite a number of years ago.

Oh ya, I think you are right. I was thinking of Torrents with the Universities thing. Torrents were designed to allow universities to transfer video and data files quickly between each other for research.
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Reported, for not being anywhere near topic.

TS, the NS-2 instructional manual also has a good tidbit on how to input, what settings to use, etc.
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wow... thanks for defining "flyer"

maybe we could write to luismcguimaraes@gmail.com to see what his background in the subject matter is, seeing as how he made the flyer, whoever the f*** he is.

...and I'm pretty sure the internet was invented for the purpose of getting free porn into the hands of kids like you who have never been laid.

TS: 100% wet means all of your signal is being sent through your parallel loop. what's the point of a looped gate if you're not going to send all of your signal through it, right?


So it means that both the Send & Return inputs are being used? Which would describe the 4 cables needed in the diagram.

@ Kevy- Im buying it used from a guy, and he told me he doesn't have the original box or instructions...but that doesn't bother me too much.

I guess I'll just tweak around with it in different positions and see which takes the most feedback away
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Old 08-18-2009, 01:11 PM   #17
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I think the ISP decimator does a better job.
A lot of people will disagree with you. Some people say that when the NS-2 is in the X connection (like pictured above) it blocks the noise way more then the Decimator.
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Old 08-18-2009, 03:15 PM   #19
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A lot of people will disagree with you. Some people say that when the NS-2 is in the X connection (like pictured above) it blocks the noise way more then the Decimator.
It does actually. I used to run a Decimator in front of my JSX and a NS-2 in the loop. No hiss, no hum no feedback.
Now I use the NS-2 in the X-Pattern and it works better than both gates together.
I use the Decimator with my HT-5 now.
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Old 08-19-2009, 12:58 AM   #20
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This is from a recent thread:

[Quote]and no, the "X-Method" is wrong. It fools a lot of people because normally when something doesn't work with guitar equipment, you get some kind of obvious warning sign, like no sound. not in this case... you signal is continuous, you're just pushing the majority of your signal through the out ("send") designed for your loop, and you're effectively double-gating your loop, which in and of itself wouldn't be so bad considering how weak the NS-2 is, except that now you've created phasing issues within a single amp! So, like I was saying, use the ins/outs like they're labled, and save the send/return for your loop.[Quote]

yes, the X-pattern will cause more noise reduction... at the price of a serious speedbump for your dynamics. Keep in mind that sound waves are cumulative. This is why the Decimator does a much better job of reducing noise while maintaining a constant feed from your line (guitar).

EDIT: btw, the manual will show you how to gate frontloaded pedals, not how to run both frontloaded itself and in the loop.

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