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UK users! Referendum!

View Poll Results: In or out of the EU
In	171	58.97%
Out	68	23.45%
Non-UK	51	17.59%
Voters: 290. You may not vote on this poll

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11-07-2009, 02:18 PM

gabcd86

isn't French.

Join Date: Jul 2007

Location: Camden, UK

UK users! Referendum!

EDIT: Fucking duh. It's a hypothetical situation.

Shock horror! Gordon Brown has called a referendum on the European Union.

If the yes vote has it, the UK will begin the secession process from the EU, leading eventually, to full separation, including from any other pan-European associations.

If the no vote suceeds, the UK will remain a member of the EU, including the Lisbon Treaty's reforms.

There's no middle ground. It's Lisbon or loneliness.

*let's just hope UG is representative of the UK as a whole*

Non-UKers, go away. :P

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11-07-2009, 02:24 PM	#2
blue_strat UG Amplified Editor Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Bristol, UK	The EU has the largest economy in the world - it would be stupid to leave it. The Government just needs to grow a pair and stand up to Brussels whenever a ridiculous bureaucratic meddler tries to fuck up what little they do get right.

11-07-2009, 02:25 PM	#3
Bumcivilian Registered Sex Offender. Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Manchester	I like the EU. __________________ I'm so adjective, I verb nouns.

11-07-2009, 02:25 PM

monkey_dancer

Tastes like chicken.

Join Date: May 2006

Location: Manchester

Leaving the EU is not a good idea.

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11-07-2009, 02:27 PM	#5
aaciseric Ug's Confused Brummie Join Date: May 2006 Location: Birmingham, UK	I think we should stay in. Though to be honest I don't know much about what specifically this new treaty will change, just the general, I tried to listen to someone on the BBC explain it but they were just so boring I gave up trying. __________________ S S

11-07-2009, 02:27 PM	#6
NinjaSlayHuman Back for one day only. Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: England	What... Politics make me confused. __________________ Winner of the UG dance-off Read my short story about a set of magic bongos.

11-07-2009, 02:28 PM	#7
BrashPersona Banned Join Date: Jun 2009	Leaving the EU is a good idea. More for British people is what I say. I'm backing Nick Griffin and the BNP on similar grounds.

11-07-2009, 02:28 PM	#8
entity0009 UG's Null. Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Null.	Face-fucking-palm. Can we get a link or some kind of confirmation of this?

11-07-2009, 02:28 PM	#9
Callum89 Accelerate the protons Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: On a line in the plane, Scotland.	In __________________ Those who have crossed With direct eyes, to death's other Kingdom Remember us - if at all - not as lost Violent souls, but only As the hollow men The stuffed men.

11-07-2009, 02:29 PM

#10

monkey_dancer

Tastes like chicken.

Join Date: May 2006

Location: Manchester

^^ +1, I can't find anything mentioning it.

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11-07-2009, 02:29 PM

#11

funny_page

Registered User

Join Date: Sep 2004

Location: Notts, England

wow!! but i think really the british people still want the EU but not the Lisbon treaty so its hard to say whats best :/

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrashPersona

Leaving the EU is a good idea.

More for British people is what I say.

I'm backing Nick Griffin and the BNP on similar grounds.

seriously !?!? gotta save more for these "indigenous" british huh?? (yeah that 1% of us) unless some of that 1% is made up of gay people, because they arent allowed !!

the BNP !!! what a joke

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11-07-2009, 02:30 PM	#12
Adamtbh Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Newcastle, UK	I dont actually think, throughout this whole debate i have seen a single newspaper or news report explaining explicitly what the Lisbon treaty actually means for us, but it would have to be pretty radical to warrant leaving the EU

11-07-2009, 02:30 PM

#13

BlueTele1983

UG's Country Guitarist

Join Date: Oct 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrashPersona

Leaving the EU is a good idea.

More for British people is what I say.

I'm backing Nick Griffin and the BNP on similar grounds.

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11-07-2009, 02:31 PM

#14

aaciseric

Ug's Confused Brummie

Join Date: May 2006

Location: Birmingham, UK

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adamtbh

I dont actually think, throughout this whole debate i have seen a single newspaper or news report explaining explicitly what the Lisbon treaty actually means for us, but it would have to be pretty radical to warrant leaving the EU

I know there's something about 5 new areas it's going to revolutionize, but they have been very vague.

Well, Wiki says this:

Quote:

Prominent changes included more qualified majority voting in the Council of Ministers, increased involvement of the European Parliament in the legislative process through extended codecision with the Council of Ministers, eliminating the pillar system and the creation of a President of the European Council with a term of two and a half years and a High Representative of the Union for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy to present a united position on EU policies. The Treaty of Lisbon will also make the Union's human rights charter, the Charter of Fundamental Rights, legally binding.

Which is still quite vague.

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11-07-2009, 02:31 PM

#15

BrashPersona

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueTele1983

11-07-2009, 02:37 PM	#16
rigiddigits Robot Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: London	"Tick here if you are a reactionary Middle England xenophobe in which case your vote will not be counted on account of you being too blinkered by mindless hate and fear of the unknown to even remotely comprehend the negative economic, cultural and social implications of leaving the EU particularly in the middle of a recession, you dick." I'm in. The EU is the world's second largest superpower. We should be in their gang. __________________ LISTEN TO SUPER MASH BROS (_.·´¯) (¯`·._) (_.·´¯) 女の子です (¯`·._) (_.·´¯) (¯`·._) onnanoko desu

11-07-2009, 02:40 PM

#17

captaincrunk

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Join Date: Jun 2008

Location: Indiana

Quote:

Originally Posted by rigiddigits

I'm in. The EU is the world's second largest superpower. We should be in their gang.

Because hegemony is a good thing, right?

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11-07-2009, 02:42 PM

#18

Ur all $h1t

Has an erection

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Adamtbh

My theory is that no-one in the entire world has ever actually read the Lisbon treaty, or ever will, including the people who wrote it.

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11-07-2009, 02:46 PM

#19

GaijinFoot

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Join Date: Jun 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ur all $h1t

My theory is that no-one in the entire world has ever actually read the Lisbon treaty, or ever will, including the people who wrote it.

haha I agree with that.
I've not heard a single thing from it.

I voted out.
Millions of people have died to keep independence. Why should we sign that away without any facts?

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11-07-2009, 02:48 PM

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rigiddigits

Robot

Join Date: Apr 2005

Location: London

Quote:

Originally Posted by captaincrunk

Because hegemony is a good thing, right?

I'm saying it would be foolhardy to distance ourselves from an economic giant. What's the alternative? America won't do shit for us. It works both ways - we need to have more British influence in Europe, not less. If we withdraw from the EU, we'll lose all of our privileges and influence.

I just can't believe people think that we don't need the European Union. The British Empire doesn't exist anymore.

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