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In 171 58.97%
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Non-UK 51 17.59%
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Old 11-08-2009, 01:51 PM   #81
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I think if it benefits us but we still get to keep our identity, then i'm in, if we switch to the Euro and just start slowly becoming turned into somewhere like France, then thats difference, and i'm not saying there is anything wrong with France as i have never been there, but this is England (or United Kingdom).

I think British people shouldn't be afraid of their nationality, sure, there is some Irish heritage in me, but i'm not gonna be one of these idiots who claims to be Irish as i have lived in England my whole life, i am English and proud to be, and people shouldn't be afraid of offending people when they say that because its completely harmless to love ones country, then again, personally i love my country but don't particularly care for the people running it.



In what way is the EU ever going to change the UK into France?

In the unlikely event that the EU becomes a European super-state, it won't be based on France, it'll be based on Europe. Like it or not, the UK is part of Europe, and shares a lot more culturally than we like to admit.

There's a difference in between being ashamed of your nationality and wanting it to move closer to others.
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Old 11-08-2009, 01:55 PM   #82
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That is actually ridiculous. Lowering rates was one of their biggest vote-for pledges for us young voters, what a tragic way to lose any chance they had.

Ok, let's just stick with Labour! Brown!! woo


Nah mate. Green party is where it's at.
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Old 11-08-2009, 01:56 PM   #83
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That is actually ridiculous. Lowering rates was one of their biggest vote-for pledges for us young voters, what a tragic way to lose any chance they had.

Ok, let's just stick with Labour! Brown!! woo


And ignore all their other policies! Woo!



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Old 11-08-2009, 02:00 PM   #84
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In what way is the EU ever going to change the UK into France?

In the unlikely event that the EU becomes a European super-state, it won't be based on France, it'll be based on Europe. Like it or not, the UK is part of Europe, and shares a lot more culturally than we like to admit.

There's a difference in between being ashamed of your nationality and wanting it to move closer to others.
Or admitting nationality is entirely meaningless. I was born in London but I've lived all over the place. I'm not proud to be British because feelings of nationalism often rose-tint the negative moments in your country of origin's history and can cause you to appear arrogant.

I'm all in favour of British integration into the EU by the way.
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Old 11-08-2009, 07:54 PM   #85
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Right, now, explain the benefits and reasons why we should care about National Identity.

You think that sounds so 'out-side the box' and 'edgy' but it just comes across like you're saying 'who cares about old people and World War II' like a spoilt little shit.

You probably would of given Hilter a hand job.
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Old 11-08-2009, 08:48 PM   #86
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In what way is the EU ever going to change the UK into France?

In the unlikely event that the EU becomes a European super-state, it won't be based on France, it'll be based on Europe. Like it or not, the UK is part of Europe, and shares a lot more culturally than we like to admit.

There's a difference in between being ashamed of your nationality and wanting it to move closer to others.


I was just saying France as an example.
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Old 11-09-2009, 06:41 AM   #87
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You think that sounds so 'out-side the box' and 'edgy' but it just comes across like you're saying 'who cares about old people and World War II' like a spoilt little shit.

You probably would of given Hilter a hand job.




Actually no, nationalists like yourself would have been more likely to like Hitler.
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Old 11-09-2009, 06:43 AM   #88
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I'd much rather the UK did not have to follow euro-laws as well as its own.
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Old 11-09-2009, 07:36 AM   #89
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I note the poll has 'in' and 'out', but is distinctly lacking in 'shake it all about'.
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Old 11-09-2009, 08:22 AM   #90
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I voted 'out'. The EU is an immoral, anti-democratic, neoliberal trading block. I want no part in it.
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Old 11-09-2009, 08:24 AM   #91
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We need to stay in the EU.

It has so many more benefits than not being in the EU has.
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Old 11-09-2009, 10:09 AM   #92
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Leaving the EU is a good idea.

More for British people is what I say.

I'm backing Nick Griffin and the BNP on similar grounds.


this is satirical, right?
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Old 11-09-2009, 10:41 AM   #93
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I say get us the **** OUT of the EU while we still can.

That is all.
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Old 11-09-2009, 10:48 AM   #94
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For me it would depend on how much state (meaning EU) regulation would be established to control transnational corporations etc. I'm all for the breaking of out-dated, nationalistic borders; and the nation-state is becoming a more and more redundant concept in today's world, but at the same time I wouldn't want to endorse a scheme to line the pockets of businessmen and bankers.

Transnational governing bodies can hinder corporatism, not just help it, so if we do become more involved with the EU it will be easier to influence it in a positive way. I'm actually doing a module in Uni at the moment about Globalisation processes, and parts of it are very interesting.
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Old 11-09-2009, 11:06 AM   #95
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i think its abit pointless we have to pay millions just to be a part of it

and we dont beanfit from the euro and have to abide EU laws that we have no control over

Edit: i do class my self as European i like other cultures and they have eveyr right to live here what i dont like is we have to go out on a leg for them and their religous rules and dont embrase our culture and try and impose their own
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Old 11-09-2009, 11:19 AM   #96
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BUT we gotta keep the Pound! Screw the Euro- the Pound is our heritage! :|
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Old 11-09-2009, 11:23 AM   #97
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i think its abit pointless we have to pay millions just to be a part of it

and we dont beanfit from the euro and have to abide EU laws that we have no control over

Edit: i do class my self as European i like other cultures and they have eveyr right to live here what i dont like is we have to go out on a leg for them and their religous rules and dont embrase our culture and try and impose their own

Not being part of the eurozone was your own decision.
You benefit hugely in free trade and free movement of people.
You do have significant control over the laws the EU makes. Never hear of MEPs etc?
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i think its abit pointless we have to pay millions just to be a part of it



And we make it all back and more through trade and good relations, not to matter the rather generous grants every country gets.



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1. We don't benefit from the Euro because we choose not to. We most certainly would if we actually joined it. That's the UK's problem, not that of Europe.

2. Define 'we', please. Besides, painting all EU law as pointless is utterly ridiculous.

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Edit: i do class my self as European i like other cultures and they have eveyr right to live here what i dont like is we have to go out on a leg for them and their religous rules and dont embrase our culture and try and impose their own



Yeah, because Europe's a bunch of muslims imposing shariah law on the UK, right?
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And we make it all back and more through trade and good relations, not to matter the rather generous grants every country gets.





1. We don't benefit from the Euro because we choose not to. We most certainly would if we actually joined it. That's the UK's problem, not that of Europe.

2. Define 'we', please. Besides, painting all EU law as pointless is utterly ridiculous.




Yeah, because Europe's a bunch of muslims imposing shariah law on the UK, right?

Yea, damn those Italian muslims.
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