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Old 11-16-2009, 07:44 AM   #81
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Old 11-16-2009, 07:45 AM   #82
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BBC are now changing their wording of the document.

They now say Mercedes are leaving McLaren altogether.
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Old 11-16-2009, 07:46 AM   #83
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Iiiiiinteresting. Nico and Nick?

All-German team then?

Where will ross go? and Jenson to McLaren for an all british team?

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Old 11-16-2009, 07:52 AM   #84
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Right.

Seems a bit clearer now. Mercedes will continue with McLaren till 2015.

Stupid BBC.

Brawn may also become 'Silver Arrows'.

Oh dear. The BBC news 24 is still saying Mercedes is NOT going to continue with McLaren and that Brawn will become Mercedes GP.

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Old 11-16-2009, 07:56 AM   #85
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Says on sky sports that they're taking over brawn and leaving mclaren
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Old 11-16-2009, 07:59 AM   #86
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They're selling their McLaren stake but will continue supplying them engines.
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Old 11-16-2009, 08:00 AM   #87
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Exciting int it. Hopefully Heidfeld gets a competitive car in the Brawn.
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Old 11-16-2009, 08:02 AM   #88
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They're selling their McLaren stake but will continue supplying them engines.


Peculiar. Might be the best option though. It'd be great if McLaren made their own engines.
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Old 11-16-2009, 08:04 AM   #89
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Merc aren't dumping their McLaren stake immediately, McLaren are buying it back over the next two years.

I think next time there are major changes to the engine rules McLaren will probably start building their own.

Haug says driver announcements will be within weeks probably, definitely this year.

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Old 11-16-2009, 08:08 AM   #90
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Yeah if I was McLaren I'd spend the next 5 years working on improving or building an engine from scratch for the car, There are rules that say that they can't use new engines are there? Or can they use completely new ones? Else that only leaves Ferrari, Renault, Toyota, Honda and Cosworth engines I believe. Would be nice to see McLaren Honda race again But it's unlikely due to the fact that honda don't have a team anymore...
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Old 11-16-2009, 08:17 AM   #91
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Old 11-16-2009, 08:18 AM   #92
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2013 is when the current agreements and regulations expire.

Spending several years developing a fuel efficient [the FIA's next engine mantra] engine could reap rewards, though they may want to start before that.
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Old 11-16-2009, 09:41 AM   #93
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a clear explanation:

http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlin...116133246.shtml

Confirming rumours that had been in the air for several weeks, Mercedes announced today that it will be taking over a 75.1% stake in this year's championship-winning team, Brawn GP.

Daimler CEO Dieter Zetsche and Mercedes Motorsport chief Norbert Haug also confirmed that starting next season, the team will be renamed Mercedes GP.

Ross Brawn and Nick Fry, along with other partners, will detain the remaining 24.9% in Mercedes GP. Brawn will continue as Team Principal, but no drivers have been confirmed.

Mercedes currently holds a 40% participation in the McLaren team; that portion will be bought back by McLaren over a period reaching until 2011, at which point the team will become independent.

However Mercedes will continue supplying engines to McLaren until 2015 and the cars will retain their silver livery.
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Old 11-16-2009, 10:35 AM   #94
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About time.
Rosberg and Heidfeld, Hamilton and Button as the pairings?
Bad news for McLaren. They really do need a partner or they could be where they were in the mid 90s, where Williams are now, before Mercedes came in. At least, they have lots of time to find someone and will have Mercedes engines for 5 years.
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Old 11-16-2009, 10:56 AM   #95
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This sucks.

No more Brawn... And I really enjoyed their liveries.

This also means there now only 3 fully UK teams next year... actually, that's not bad.
I'm just upset that there will be no more yellow/white cars on track.
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Old 11-16-2009, 11:59 AM   #96
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So what if Mclaren take Kimi, Button would be searching for a drive still and maybe have to settle for one of the new teams....
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Old 11-16-2009, 12:09 PM   #97
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So what if Mclaren take Kimi, Button would be searching for a drive still and maybe have to settle for one of the new teams....

Damon Hill the 2nd?

yes I am aware arrows wasn't a new team
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Old 11-16-2009, 12:32 PM   #98
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Damon Hill the 2nd?

yes I am aware arrows wasn't a new team



I honestly think Button to McLaren would be career suicide. He should just take any Brawn/Merc GP offers left on the table and get himself a secure drive.

However, Button and his darts player manager are notoriously awful at making the right decisions with regards to Button's employment.


EDIT : I sent a bit of chat to the arsey Polish guy that jumped on me for missing a couple of sessions. He says ;

'I hope, this was your last holiday until we finish season '

Threatening, tbh.

I've told him to relax. If he doesn't, I'm gonna screw his racing.


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Old 11-16-2009, 02:33 PM   #99
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Just heard about Brawn. I'm gutted. I LOVE the liveries. Also, OP updated.
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Old 11-16-2009, 02:55 PM   #100
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Damon Hill the 2nd?

yes I am aware arrows wasn't a new team


I very much fear that this will happen, it just seems to be heading that way. It's just like Damon in every way, he had offers from McLaren, Ferrari and another team that I cannot recall that he didn'tt take up and he ended up being a joke of a world champion in many ways.

I hope Jenson has been told 'the ballad of Damon Hill' before he goes and repeats it, leaving us the British F1 community to write a sequal
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