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Old 12-08-2009, 12:49 AM   #1
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Tabs & Chords: Instrument Ideas Thread [IID]

I couldn't come up with a better name for this kind of thread.

Need help with a better intro?
Do you have problems writing drum fills?
Need a second brain or insight on a song you have created?
Need opinions on certain parts?
Want some ideas for a song?

This is what this thread is about. Basically, I have made this thread for people that are stuck in their songs and need someone to help them out. For example, some people can't write drum parts for their life, so you can ask someone in this thread if they could help you or write drum parts for your song (optional).

Steps to follow!
1. Write down the problem or specific help needed.
2. Attach the GP file
3. Done.

NOTE: Make sure to thank the person who helped you and the people that attempted to help out.


NOTE 2: This thread is not for critiquing pieces.

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Old 12-08-2009, 01:11 AM   #2
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Ah, I made a thread for this once. Kinda. But it failed. Hopefully this one works.
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Old 12-08-2009, 06:00 AM   #3
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Old 12-08-2009, 06:06 AM   #4
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Hang on, so do we download the attached file and edit it or something and then re-upload it?
or do we just listen and make suggestions?
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Old 12-08-2009, 06:41 AM   #5
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Okay, I'll gues I'll be the first to ask for help here


Anyone got some suggestions on how to continue this piece I made last week?
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Old 12-08-2009, 10:58 AM   #6
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Crappy? My friend told me that bar 3 sounds like shit, and is ****ing bad. Do you think the same way? What's wrong with it? I like it myself, but maybe I don't see the problem. Help plz ^^!
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Old 12-08-2009, 12:21 PM   #7
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Crappy? My friend told me that bar 3 sounds like shit, and is ****ing bad. Do you think the same way? What's wrong with it? I like it myself, but maybe I don't see the problem. Help plz ^^!

ok, there are 2 things about that:
1. The timing isn't really off, but I fixed the first 5 notes to make it a bit more fluent, while keeping that...chaotic feel
2. In contrast to the other bars, this one doesn't sound really classical, so I tweaked 2 notes. Not the best solution, but I hope it's giving you some hints.

other than that, the thing sounds pretty cool, keep it up.
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Okay, I'll gues I'll be the first to ask for help here


Anyone got some suggestions on how to continue this piece I made last week?

I don't know what kind of music you are going for. If it'S just and intro for any kind of metal song you could easily start with a heavy riff based on what you already have right away.
If you want to write a slower instrumental piece, you can either keep the ryhthm you have and change its key, or find a fitting chord to continue. Maybe Cm or Asus2, depending on the atmosphere.
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Old 12-08-2009, 02:04 PM   #8
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I don't know what kind of music you are going for. If it'S just and intro for any kind of metal song you could easily start with a heavy riff based on what you already have right away.
If you want to write a slower instrumental piece, you can either keep the ryhthm you have and change its key, or find a fitting chord to continue. Maybe Cm or Asus2, depending on the atmosphere.


Yeah, any kind of music is fine really, just thought that up and wanted to go with whatever it would lead into, thanx for the ideas though
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Old 12-08-2009, 03:24 PM   #9
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ok, there are 2 things about that:
1. The timing isn't really off, but I fixed the first 5 notes to make it a bit more fluent, while keeping that...chaotic feel
2. In contrast to the other bars, this one doesn't sound really classical, so I tweaked 2 notes. Not the best solution, but I hope it's giving you some hints.

other than that, the thing sounds pretty cool, keep it up.



May I have gp4? And thank's really !
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Old 12-08-2009, 04:31 PM   #10
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May I have gp4? And thank's really !


Here ya go:




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this is thorbor's version btw, I just transposed it to GP4, further than that I have nothing to do with the tab
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Old 12-08-2009, 05:14 PM   #11
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I nominate with a heavy heart MaidenPriest666's tearjerking "Nigga Gimme a Breakdown" for a complete and utter overhaul in the drum section.


http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/foru...d.php?t=1240729


Please help this poor man.
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Old 12-08-2009, 05:20 PM   #12
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I nominate with a heavy heart MaidenPriest666's tearjerking "Nigga Gimme a Breakdown" for a complete and utter overhaul in the drum section.
http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/foru...d.php?t=1240729
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I guess I'll take a look at that tomorrow
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Old 12-08-2009, 05:32 PM   #13
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Thanks for thorbor and ultimate-slash! If you want to hear what I did with "bar 3" go look for "Song of the Siren". It progressive death metal (I think.)
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Old 12-08-2009, 06:16 PM   #14
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Hang on, so do we download the attached file and edit it or something and then re-upload it?
or do we just listen and make suggestions?



You can do both.


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I nominate with a heavy heart MaidenPriest666's tearjerking "Nigga Gimme a Breakdown" for a complete and utter overhaul in the drum section.


http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/foru...d.php?t=1240729


Please help this poor man.


You need his consent from the songwriter. You can't just post songs you think needs help. Please, don't do this again.

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Old 12-08-2009, 06:35 PM   #15
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excellent idea arsis, i think this thread will turn out well.

annyyways..... i can write some pretty badass shit, but can never write leads/solos in key. basically all im asking is can someone give me an idea of a solo to play on these two songs? im not saying write me a solo so i can steal it, just a general idea to build off of. i tend to learn from watching whats going on. both of the songs are labelled where the solo starts and ends, usually when we practice I just freeball it. go hard on the solo if you so desire, i can rock some sweep picking and basically every tool i need to write a dope solo, i just dont possess the ability to solo in key.

neither of the songs have drums either if someone is feeling bored and feels the need to do the drums then go right ahead.

thanks for all the help guys.
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Old 12-08-2009, 09:42 PM   #16
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excellent idea arsis, i think this thread will turn out well.

annyyways..... i can write some pretty badass shit, but can never write leads/solos in key. basically all im asking is can someone give me an idea of a solo to play on these two songs? im not saying write me a solo so i can steal it, just a general idea to build off of. i tend to learn from watching whats going on. both of the songs are labelled where the solo starts and ends, usually when we practice I just freeball it. go hard on the solo if you so desire, i can rock some sweep picking and basically every tool i need to write a dope solo, i just dont possess the ability to solo in key.

neither of the songs have drums either if someone is feeling bored and feels the need to do the drums then go right ahead.

thanks for all the help guys.




I did some drumming parts for majority of your song. Tell me what you think.
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Old 12-09-2009, 01:45 AM   #17
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I need some mads advice for this piece I'm writing, I need to know whether the structure holds up properly, and I need advice on how to end the damn thing, this piece has been modified endlessly by me and I just don't know where to go with it anymore.

Any help would be appreciated, and I'd be glad to help back on one of your pieces.
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Old 12-09-2009, 06:33 AM   #18
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lol my tearjerking song, its ok u can use it as a ""good" example"
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Old 12-09-2009, 09:17 AM   #19
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Seems like a good idea for a thread. I'll be sure to contribute sometime.

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NOTE 2: This thread is not for critiquing pieces.

I'd assume you are aiming this at those uploading, rather than those helping. Surely some critique would go down well if there really isn't anything that needs ammending.
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excellent idea arsis, i think this thread will turn out well.

annyyways..... i can write some pretty badass shit, but can never write leads/solos in key. basically all im asking is can someone give me an idea of a solo to play on these two songs? im not saying write me a solo so i can steal it, just a general idea to build off of. i tend to learn from watching whats going on. both of the songs are labelled where the solo starts and ends, usually when we practice I just freeball it. go hard on the solo if you so desire, i can rock some sweep picking and basically every tool i need to write a dope solo, i just dont possess the ability to solo in key.

neither of the songs have drums either if someone is feeling bored and feels the need to do the drums then go right ahead.

thanks for all the help guys.
I listen to both songs, but unfortuantely I can't write shred solos too, and a shred solo would definitely be in order for the song, The Arsis did the drums for. I think the best would be to have 2 guitars playing the during solo one after another, like a guitar duel if you now what I mean. I'd start out with some tapping and longer bends, some random scratching and noisy stuff too.

Also, in the second song you have the same chord progression going on for over 50 bars, even if you cover that with vocals and leads, it's still kinda lame.

Other than that the songs remind me of Amon Amarth. The second one could sound good with dimmu borgir like keys, especially in teh first half of the song.
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I need some mads advice for this piece I'm writing, I need to know whether the structure holds up properly, and I need advice on how to end the damn thing, this piece has been modified endlessly by me and I just don't know where to go with it anymore.

Any help would be appreciated, and I'd be glad to help back on one of your pieces.
haha, crazy piece. I think you can jus end with a fade out on that one. I don't really know why you have onle the lead section fading out at the end, since you cant really hear that cool riff anymore. I'd just continue that riff for a few more bars ad then fade out.
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