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Old 03-15-2010, 06:56 PM   #21
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"If that's the case" lol. That will ALWAYS be the case.

This bozo never even tried it. He's just making up shit as he goes along. That picture should have never been posted, unless it was explicitly cited as an example of how NOT to do this. EVER.


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If there was any justice in this world, linking to that guy's site would be a bannable offense.



Well like I said the N.O. worked fine, which is why I posted it, guess that guy's not too smart then
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Old 03-15-2010, 08:09 PM   #22
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So I put it in, and I'm not sure if this apply's to every amp, but it pops like you mentioned when i cut the signal back on. I'm playing through an MG just to test it, but I have a tube amp i can put it through.

I have it wired with the hot and ground going straight to the jack, with a 2 prong button switch btw. help?

edit: yup on the tube amp it does it both ways. how big of a resistor are we talking?
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Old 03-15-2010, 08:45 PM   #23
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Question, (sorry for double post)

If I just hook up the hot wire on one prong of the killswitch, connect it to the other, then run it to the jack with no ground, will that be that "perfect world" situation? Because I would only be using the killswitch for like fractions of a second, so it wouldn't really matter to me if it picked up some frequencies. Is anybody following me on this theory?
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Old 03-15-2010, 09:33 PM   #24
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^im not sure what you're describing, but it doesn't sound like it'd be what you want..

And for putting a resistor between the lugs, use something like..the biggest you can easily get your hands on. Just grab like, a 2.2 Meg or something
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Old 03-15-2010, 09:48 PM   #25
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^im not sure what you're describing, but it doesn't sound like it'd be what you want..

And for putting a resistor between the lugs, use something like..the biggest you can easily get your hands on. Just grab like, a 2.2 Meg or something



Basically I'm describing a hot wire running through the killswitch to the jack, with no ground.
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Old 03-15-2010, 10:08 PM   #26
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I think he means:

Hot--->----| Kill Switch |-->---Jack

In which case, yes, it would work, but make that "unplugged guitar" sound.

EDIT: Do this with Normally Closed.

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Old 03-15-2010, 10:29 PM   #27
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I think he means:

Hot--->----| Kill Switch |-->---Jack

In which case, yes, it would work, but make that "unplugged guitar" sound.

EDIT: Do this with Normally Closed.



what if i have normally opened?
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what if i have normally opened?
Then you won't have a killswitch. You'll have a soundswitch. No sound, unless you press the switch. Not easy to work with, really.

Are you interested in trying an experiment to get rid of the popping? No guarantees on the results. Tell me what kind of guitar you have, and I can draw you up a diagram.
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Old 03-15-2010, 10:39 PM   #29
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Then you won't have a killswitch. You'll have a soundswitch. No sound, unless you press the switch. Not easy to work with, really.

Are you interested in trying an experiment to get rid of the popping? No guarantees on the results. Tell me what kind of guitar you have, and I can draw you up a diagram.



i have a normally opened, but wired up with both the hot and ground on the jack. Works fine, just pops.

I have a LP, 2 humbucker, 4 pots. 2 volume 2 tone.

edit: btw your sig quote is hilarious
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i have a normally opened, but wired up with both the hot and ground on the jack. Works fine, just pops.

I have a LP, 2 humbucker, 4 pots. 2 volume 2 tone.

edit: btw your sig quote is hilarious
ah, crap. that would be the most messy one possible to rewire with the idea I had. Basically it entails disconnecting one of the tone pots and using just the tone pot (not the tone cap) to add resistance in series with the the wire going to output jack, after the killswitch.

It'll be less clumsy to do this with a guitar that's wired for 1 volume, 1 tone. Or a strat.



Try something different though. This one is dead easy.
Select just one pickup.
Set guitar at full volume.
Play and use the killswitch.
Make a mental note of how loud the popping is.

Now turn the volume on your guitar to 5.
Adjust the volume on your amp so it's as loud as it was before.
Is the popping the same? Louder? Quieter?
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I'll have to do it tomorrow. It's too late to do anything with my tube amp since the family is sleeping. I'll post back tomorrow though when I remember lol.
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Old 03-16-2010, 03:15 PM   #33
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Hey TS let us know in a new post when you've updated the OP please, I probably won't be checking on it in a while.

SYK I'm trying out the experiment now... results in a few minutes.


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The popping is the same at any volume, whether the guitar or the amp is turned down, and vice versa.
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^will do

i'm gonna get to updating it now, and whenever it's updated, I'll try to add a note in the first post
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Old 03-16-2010, 04:12 PM   #35
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Ok so I came across some old components I still had when i tried modding my DS-1.

I have 1.5K, 2.4K, and 20K resistors. Which one should I use to stop the popping, and how should I wire it up? A diagram would be helpful, and could contribute to the OP btw

edit: here's a photo of the new switch
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I'm thinking once i progress my mod i will switch it out with a DPDT (or whatever) that changes it from series to parallel, then getting one of those cube killswitches and replacing a pot. Since I would rather only have 1 push/pull that splits all of the coils when i pull it out

also, notice how its kinda big. my dumbass stepdad pressed too hard on the drill and made the initially small hole ENORMOUS. a giant washer cleaned up the image though
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I'd suggest using something even bigger than any of the ones you've got.. I've never tried using a 20k, but I'd imagine you'd have a bunch of tone and volume sucking going on

and I can put a little diagram together, but the explanation I'm putting in should sum it up..you just put the resistor between the lugs of the switch, or across the 2 lugs of the output jack. diagram in a minute, though
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I'd suggest using something even bigger than any of the ones you've got.. I've never tried using a 20k, but I'd imagine you'd have a bunch of tone and volume sucking going on

and I can put a little diagram together, but the explanation I'm putting in should sum it up..you just put the resistor between the lugs of the switch, or across the 2 lugs of the output jack. diagram in a minute, though



I'll use the 2.4k... wish me luck haha
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well, 2k4 is even smaller than 20k, so.. you'll need it

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Hey TS let us know in a new post when you've updated the OP please, I probably won't be checking on it in a while.

SYK I'm trying out the experiment now... results in a few minutes.


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The popping is the same at any volume, whether the guitar or the amp is turned down, and vice versa.
Okay, that tells us adding resistance in series, before the switch, won't help us. We can try adding resistance after the switch and see if that helps. If you wanna try this experimental set-up, that's fine. If not, I wouldn't blame you. It will be a bit of a hack and it won't be permanent. Just a way to determine if resistance helps and how much we should use.

If you find a setting of the newly wired control that works well, measure the resistance of the pot at that setting. Once we know the size of the resistor, you'll wire the tone control normally and use a resistor after the switch.



Lemme know if you do this, and what the results are.
Or if you don't wanna bother, let me know that, k?
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Well the 2.4k resistor just sucked alot of tone and volume, the popping wasn't changed at all.

And SYK, if you saw the guts of my les paul, you wouldn't wanna do that haha its so crowded full of wires that trying to do anything that drastic could take hours. If was enough to move things aside and install the killswitch.

Is there any simple way to fix it? Like i different type of switch wired to something else? (something easy)
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