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Old 10-04-2010, 08:53 PM   #81
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I meant damaging the wiring or something.
the guy at radioshack was like "don't build it like that! Its bad to short out anything." The way he said do it gives the dreaded unplugged guitar noise though, so he wasn't right....I just want to know if it could damage the wiring.

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Old 10-05-2010, 11:12 PM   #83
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Ok, thanks.
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Old 11-28-2010, 07:51 PM   #84
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Ok so I am going to add a button type switch into my Hellraiser. I have a few questions/concerns. First off, will it mess with me tone at all, just having it there? Second, I think I am going to drill out a section between the battery cover and the main cover, so that the button is in a more ideal spot on the guitar. With that, Ive heard that removing wood from your guitar can lead to a lack of sustain, tone, etc. Any help?
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Old 11-28-2010, 07:55 PM   #85
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The only way I can see it affecting tone is the tiny amount of resistance and inductance that the extra wire will have. Even then, you have to a superhuman audio analyzer to notice anything. So no, it won't affect tone.

Assuming you don't remove like half of the guitar's wood, you'll be fine. Fitting space for one switch will not audibly change anything in your tone/sustain.
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Old 11-28-2010, 08:00 PM   #86
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alright cool, I think im going to make a video of the process, for those interested.
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Old 12-05-2010, 04:39 PM   #87
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Old 12-13-2010, 02:00 PM   #88
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First of all i wanna thank you for putting that much effort into this thread... very helpful it is!

But i got a specific question nonetheless:
I got an Epiphone Les Paul Custom with the EMG Zakk Wylde Set installed (-> 2x Vol and 2x Tone).
Now i want to change the setup to 2x Vol, 1x Tone, + Killswitch.

The diagram for the setup (without the killswitch) would then be as follows:





Now my plan is to just add the killswitch without changing the original EMG parts (which wouldnt be too easy due to the solderless system provided by EMG).

Now i thought of 2 ways to get this done:



or




Now the questions: Will it work this way? If so: Which of the two methods would you recommend? Is there anything else to be considered when installing a killswitch in combination with active pickups?

Help would be greatly appreciated!

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Old 12-13-2010, 02:06 PM   #89
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all you have to do is connect the hot and gnd of the jack when the switch is pressed.

either of those will work jsut the same. you can also wire it across the tip and sleeve of the jack.
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Old 12-17-2010, 05:31 PM   #90
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Just a little input:

Today i installed a killswitch as shown in the first diagram of my previous post. Result: works absolutely flawless.
Got a slight 'pop'-sound when using in Clean channel though - but no problem when using lots of distortion. And hell, you won't get EMGs when you wanna use Clean sounds, right?

So installing a killswitch on a 'solderless' EMG-system is very easy...

Feel free to add my diagram to the starting posts of this thread if you want.
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Old 12-17-2010, 05:45 PM   #91
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Got a slight 'pop'-sound when using in Clean channel though - but no problem when using lots of distortion.


Solution is on the first page, just wire in one little resistor.


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Earlier, I mentioned putting a high value resistor between the lugs of the switch, if you have problems with popping when using the switch.

First of all, get your hands on a very high resistance resistor. Usually, you can find a 2M2 (2.2Meg, or 2200000 ohms) resistor fairly easily, at almost anywhere that sells electronic components.
in a little while, I (or anyone else, if you want to volunteer) can play around with different resistor values to see how low (resistance-wise) you can go, but ..if the value you use is too low, you'll experience some treble and volume loss, which is never nice.

Anyway, all you need to do is put the resistor between the two lugs of the switch you used.
It should be pretty straight forward, but heres a diagram if you really don't know what I'm talking about:


If space is an issue, you can put the resistor between the lugs of the output jack, instead of the switch.
It'll have the exact same effect, it's just another option you have..
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Old 12-21-2010, 01:17 PM   #92
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So guys, quick question.
I have EMG 81 wired directly to output, like this:


And I wan't to add a killswitch (not able to cary killswitch pedal on every gig/rehersal) like this:


Toggle that I have is:


I thing it is on/off.

Will that wiring work (just with toggle)?
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Old 12-21-2010, 01:53 PM   #93
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yep, it'll work just fine

I doubt that the switch you have is on/off, since it's got 2 throws..but it'll still work just fine. I'm thinking it's on/on. it's just 2 positions, right?

wire the middle and right lugs (or middle and left, it doesn't matter if it's on/on) like the two lugs in the momentary button switch diagram you posted
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Old 12-21-2010, 02:29 PM   #94
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yup, it's two position toggle with three lugs. ok, will try that tomorrow ( and add resistor if needed)

tnx alot

edit: do I need to ground the toggle with bridge ground wire? it will have plastic tip
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Old 12-21-2010, 02:59 PM   #95
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As far as the resistor values to stop the pop bit...
I build a lot of pedals. When stomping on the pedal to turn it on, you may get a pop.
To stop this you run a resistor from effect output hot to ground.
This is similar to the one mentioned up above.

Resistors for this purpose, I have seen values from 470k to 5 megs.
I find 1Meg or 1.5Meg to do just fine for most cases.
I don't know if these values will work, but they do fine for pedals.

You don't really need to ground the switch. But It wouldn't hurt.
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Old 12-21-2010, 03:24 PM   #96
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Well, I'll put 2.2M res if there is pop sound.
And for grounding, in case of buzz I'll ground it. Otherwise, as I mentioned, it will have plastic tip.

Edit: Working like a charm. Without resistor. Nice. Thanks everybody
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Old 01-03-2011, 04:49 AM   #97
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Here's my two guitars both with killswitches. The red ESP is the perfect example of how not to do it. I tried making the hole bigger with a huge drill piece and it took a big chunk out of the finish. Definitely use a small drill bit and run it round the out side of the hole to make it bigger. Or a file.

The other is my black Ibanez RG7321. This is a square momentary switch so I had to sand out the existing tone pot hole into a square. Wrapping sand paper around a nail file or icy-pole stick does the trick. This switch is much easier to use than the bigger arcade one. $1 from dicksmiths here in AUS

For both I solder to the middle lug of the volume and the ground of the pot casing. Works perfectly.

Feel free to use any of the pics on frontpage
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Here's my two guitars both with killswitches. The red ESP is the perfect example of how not to do it. I tried making the hole bigger with a huge drill piece and it took a big chunk out of the finish. Definitely use a small drill bit and run it round the out side of the hole to make it bigger. Or a file.

The other is my black Ibanez RG7321. This is a square momentary switch so I had to sand out the existing tone pot hole into a square. Wrapping sand paper around a nail file or icy-pole stick does the trick. This switch is much easier to use than the bigger arcade one. $1 from dicksmiths here in AUS

For both I solder to the middle lug of the volume and the ground of the pot casing. Works perfectly.

Feel free to use any of the pics on frontpage

added to the first page
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Old 03-16-2011, 06:13 AM   #99
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How would I wire a killswitch before all the tone/volume pots in my SG? I want to make this operation as simple as possible!
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Old 05-06-2011, 12:51 PM   #100
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ok, i have read through the thread, and haven't found any information on my question, so please don't maim me because i am asking this.


how would i wire a killswitch just to kill one pickup? my summer guitar build has a plan of 3 pickups (hum phat-cat hum) and i want to be able to kill the phat-cat at will.
to make things more difficult, i also want to wire the hum's oop, which i want to be able to disengage as well.

this will be my first guitar build, so sorry if this is a noobish question
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