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Old 05-17-2013, 07:33 AM   #1
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Trying to work out a cadence

I'm trying to work out a cadence for these chord progressions:

Bmin7 (VIm) - G9sus (IV) In the key of D Major

Amin (VIm) - F (IV) - C Major

I cannot work this out for the life of me. The progressions for the first "cadence" is:

Dsus2 - G9sus - Bmin7 - G9sus


Dsus2 - Asus2 - Bmin7 - G9sus

A - Bmin - G

And the progression for the second on is:

C - G11 - Amin - F

I don't get it as you're landing on the sub dominant, so it's not really a cadence...
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Old 05-17-2013, 07:45 AM   #2
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Sorry, I'm being an idiot. Forgot the progression resolve to a 1st...
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Old 05-17-2013, 08:34 AM   #3
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Nobody says you have to have proper cadences. Since there's no dominant or IV-I pattern, there's not really a cadence.

But a cadence isn't necessary here because you never left the Tonic harmony, really. I V vi patterns are usually heard as Tonic sequences, not actual harmonic progressions.

Your progression is just a I V vi IV in both tunes - probably the most common chord sequence in all of popular music. It's worked for like a million other musicians, I see no reason you'd need to change it.
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Old 05-17-2013, 09:59 AM   #4
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The second one has 2 cadences IMO.

The V - vi is a deceptive one. The vi functions as a tonic substitute only differing from the tonic by the A instead of G.

The IV at the end probably leads back to the tonic C I presume which is a plagal cadance.
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Old 05-17-2013, 10:50 AM   #5
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Nobody says you have to have proper cadences. Since there's no dominant or IV-I pattern, there's not really a cadence.

But a cadence isn't necessary here because you never left the Tonic harmony, really. I V vi patterns are usually heard as Tonic sequences, not actual harmonic progressions.

Your progression is just a I V vi IV in both tunes - probably the most common chord sequence in all of popular music. It's worked for like a million other musicians, I see no reason you'd need to change it.


I was just writing an essay about progressions and cadences. But like I said before, I forgot that it resolves to a Dsus2 which makes it a plagal cadence. Thanks for you advice any way
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Old 05-17-2013, 12:32 PM   #6
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Think of it this way, what does it sounded like? It may not be "proper cadence", but what does it sound like?
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Old 05-18-2013, 10:42 AM   #7
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The second one has 2 cadences IMO.

The V - vi is a deceptive one. The vi functions as a tonic substitute only differing from the tonic by the A instead of G.

The IV at the end probably leads back to the tonic C I presume which is a plagal cadance.


I'd call it a resolution rather than a cadence. Cadence comes at the end of the phrase.
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