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Old 06-13-2010, 10:16 PM   #41
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I agree with not having MGMT on the list.

Some suggestions:

Suicide - Suicide (1977)
The Mars Volta - De-loused in The Comatorium (2003)
The Drones - Gala Mill (2006)
Portishead - Third (2008)

I can see how the Mars Volta might not fit the criterion, but I am insistent that it is essential and a classic in its own right.

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Old 06-14-2010, 02:01 AM   #42
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nope. doesn't match up to TM&A and LCW.

still good, but hardly essential to someone new to the genre.


Are.... are you serious? This Is a Long Drive is Modest Mouse's best album, how you can say LCW and especially TM&A is better is beyond me. LCW and TM&A are amazing albums but definitely not better than This Is a Long Drive...
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Old 06-14-2010, 09:49 AM   #43
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Are.... are you serious? This Is a Long Drive is Modest Mouse's best album, how you can say LCW and especially TM&A is better is beyond me. LCW and TM&A are amazing albums but definitely not better than This Is a Long Drive...

A) Building Nothing Out Of Something is their best.

B)This list isn't necessarily about quality, but rather about how essential an album is to understanding the current state of alterative music. This Is A Long Drive isn't quite essential.
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Old 06-14-2010, 01:10 PM   #44
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I'd change 13 Songs to Repeater for the Fugazi selection.

Oops didn't see Repeater on there >.>

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Old 06-14-2010, 03:03 PM   #45
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The absence of Laughing Stock is getting me quite butthurt.
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Old 06-14-2010, 04:51 PM   #46
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No, but The Handshake, Future Reflections, Weekend Wars, 4th Dimensional Transition, Pieces of What, Of Moons, Birds and Monsters, every song on that album that WEREN'T the singles do. Those songs are ****ing gold. The singles aren't half bad, though.

In fact, the only songs on that album that were Top 40 pop-sounding songs WERE the singles. The better 7/10ths of the album is straight up psychedelic rock (insanely produced psychedelic rock, but hey, the producer was Dave Friddman, what are you gonna do?). In my opinion it's one of the best albums of the past 20 years, of all time even.

And, no, it's not just because it's "SO HYPED LOLZOLZOLZ" and I'm some fag who buys into hype and just likes things because they're popular. I honestly believe it is a ****ing fantastic album, and deserving 100% of an "essentials" list. I would say almost the same thing about Congratulations, but I haven't had that long enough to tell you if I'll feel the same way in a few years. Oracular I have had, and I can tell you that.

I've also never understood what was so special about the Strokes, anyways, they bore me to death after a few listens.
I gave the album another listen today specifically because of this post and, while a few of the album tracks (I already thought Pieces of What was the best song on the album, Weekend Wars and The Handshake also stood out) but in general my view on the album hasn't really changed.

It's not a bad album but I wouldn't personally say it's amazing and I don't think it's either good enough or influential enough to deserve to be called essential. I think Work Sucks hit the hail on the head, essential albums are the ones where pretty much everyone who likes Indie or Alternative will agree on. Not everyone will necessarily like the album but even the majority who don't will accept that it probably is essential.

As for The Strokes, I suggest you give at least the first two albums (I'm not a big fan of the third) a listen. They won't change your life but they're both decent albums filled with nice pop songs.

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And, no, it's not just because it's "SO HYPED LOLZOLZOLZ" and I'm some fag who buys into hype and just likes things because they're popular.
I didn't mean to imply anything like this. The stuff I wrote about hype was just in reference to how Pitchfork and a few other websites (not to mention people) tend to hate everything that NME overhypes but if you ignore the hype and just look at the music, The Strokes are a decent band.
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A) Building Nothing Out Of Something is their best.

B)This list isn't necessarily about quality, but rather about how essential an album is to understanding the current state of alterative music. This Is A Long Drive isn't quite essential.



A) No. Workin' On Leavin' The Livin' is too long and repetitive. Medication is a pretty boring song too. All Nite Diner is boring most of the time too, it's a good song but does get bland fast. While on This Is A Long Drive I can't really find one bad song besides maybe Might. Though I understand a lot of people probably don't like Dog Paddle. Both albums are great but in my opinion This Is A Long Drive has some of their best songs ever and less meh songs compared to BNOOS.

B) I still think it should be added. How could you not have the best album ever on there
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Old 06-18-2010, 05:39 PM   #48
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Does anyone listen to Indiefeed and listen to all the artists that they play? It's pretty good and you'll be able to keep the tracks for download.
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Old 06-25-2010, 07:25 PM   #49
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Am i the only one who would like to see Millions Now Living Will Never Die by Tortoise on the list?
Definitely 'essential' and extremely influential on the post-rock scene in the US.
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Old 06-25-2010, 09:12 PM   #50
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Am i the only one who would like to see Millions Now Living Will Never Die by Tortoise on the list?
Definitely 'essential' and extremely influential on the post-rock scene in the US.

don't have a clue how that wasn't on there. added.
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Old 06-25-2010, 10:20 PM   #51
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my suggestions:

Cannibal Ox - The Cold Vein
Lightning Bolt - Wonderful Rainbow
Liars - Drum's Not Dead
Venetian Snares - Rossz Csillag Alatt Született
New Order - Power, Corruption & Lies
Paul Baribeau - Paul Baribeau
Fennesz - Endless Summer
Justin Timberlake - FutureSex/LoveSounds (it affected indie music criticism more than anything else in the last decade)
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Old 06-26-2010, 12:55 PM   #52
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Justin Timberlake - FutureSex/LoveSounds (it affected indie music criticism more than anything else in the last decade)

Please elaborate...
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Old 06-28-2010, 12:28 AM   #53
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Seriously needs Laughing Stock.

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Spirit of Eden is better, at least to me, solely because of The Rainbow.

That doesn't change the fact that Laughing Stock is usually considered the superior album. Seriously what you say translates to me like..
On Avery Island is better, at least to me, solely because of Song Against Sex, therefore In the Aeroplane Over the Sea isn't getting added.


On an unrelated note, I believe Trans-Europe Express deserved to be *ed.
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Old 06-28-2010, 01:04 AM   #54
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Please elaborate...

"My Love" is largely what broke music critics of the rockist perspective -- i.e. it brought in the idea that an artist doesn't necessarily need to be authentic to make good music.

Also, Spirit of Eden is where it's at.

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Old 07-05-2010, 04:43 PM   #55
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What you have done with this thread is amazing. Huge props on the effort you've put into updating it.

I'll recommend these two...

Captain Beefheart - Clear Spot (1972)
Art Ensemble of Chicago - Les Stances a Sophie (1970)

...to at least listen to. Well worth your time.
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Old 07-05-2010, 05:18 PM   #56
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2002 Sigur Ros - ()
2005 Broken Social Scene - Self Titled
2007 The New Pornographers - Challengers
2002 Frou Frou - Details
2004 The Dresden Dolls - Self Titled
2004 65daysofstatic - The Fall Of Math
2010 Broken Social Scene - Forgiveness Rock Record
2003 - The Postal Service - Give Up
1986 The Flaming Lips - Hear It Is
2007 Of Montreal - Hissing Fauna Are you the Destroyer?
1985 The Cure - The Head on the Door
2005 Sufjan Stevens - Illinoise
1978 Kraftwerk - The Man Machine
2001 The Shins - Oh, Inverted World
1996 Neutral Milk Hotel - On Avery Island
2003 Stephen Malkmus - Pig Lib
2008 - Stephen Malkmus - Real Emotional Trash
2004 - The Fiery Furnaces - Blue Berry Boat
2006 Islands - Return To The Sea
2001 Modest Mouse - Sad Sappy Sucker
1999 The Flmaing Lips - The Soft Bulletin
1997 William Shatner and Leonard Nimoy - Spaced Out
2001 Various Artists - Strung out on OK computer
2005 Sigur Ros - Takk...
2000 The Dandy Warhols - 13 Tales from Urban Bohemia
2000 The Hives - Veni, Vidi, Vicious
1997 Harvey Danger - where have all the merrymakers gone?
2007 The Shins - Wincing the night away
1998 Placebo Without You I'm Nothing
1997 Stereophonics - Word Gets Around
2002 The Flaming Lips - Yoshimi Battles The Pink Robots
1972 David Bowie -the rise and fall of Ziggy Stardust And The Spiders From Mars
1997 Blur- Self titled
1995 Blur- The Great Escape
1994 Blur - Parklife
1979 Joy Division - Unknown Pleasures
1980 Joy Division - Closer
1989 - The Cure - Disintergration


Just a few humble suggestions on my part for the list.

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Old 07-06-2010, 02:20 PM   #57
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^ a lot of those are already listed
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Oh i checked the starting posts. I must have missed a few i'm sure people are clever enough to filter them out. i do post it quite late last night.
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Old 07-06-2010, 09:48 PM   #59
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Rowland S. Howard - Teenage Snuff Film (his influence on post-punk is ridiculous, his guitar playing, songwriting style influenced generations of new bands just look at the horrors, interpol, editors etc - his influence on australian underground music was also big as well, this album is his best)
The Boys Next Door - Door, Door (also known as The Birthday Party, essential post-punk record)
Bloc Party - Silent Alarm (essential indie guitar album)
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Old 07-10-2010, 12:05 PM   #60
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in regards to MGMT, We (don't) Care should at least be on the list. They've been pretty influential don't deny it, and this ep is pretty damn good
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