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Yngwie Malmsteen 12 26.67%
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Old 05-25-2010, 11:52 PM   #1
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Yngwie or Petrucci

So I was bored and started playing my Fender YJM, messing around with some Far Beyond the Sun. Then I got bored of that, and went on to the Count of Tuscany on my ESP M-II. After doing this, I don't know which one I prefer. What about you guys? I know music is not about a competition and crap like that, but I'm just curious about your opinions on their technique, tone, and general songwriting.
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Old 05-26-2010, 12:04 AM   #2
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Well, obviously, one of the two options is a progressive songwriter who's not bad at lyrics, pretty good at interesting composition, and really ****ing technically good. The other one is a sociopath stuck in the 80's still wearing exotic fur vests, trying to play guitar faster than Dragonforce while still looking more ******ed than said disgustipating band, and lastly who's songs sound like cheesy knock-offs of something heard many decades ago, done much better before, if I may say so.
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Old 05-26-2010, 12:06 AM   #3
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Yngwie is the most pompous ass I've ever seen in my entire life
But GOD DAMN he's one sic shredder
John is one of those guys who always tears it up; there's a reason he's been in G3 6 times, more than any other guitar player.

I really wouldn't compare them because of their genres( John is more Prog. and Yngwie is more Neoclassical) but skill wise, I'd say they would be pretty close. They both are unbelievably clean and fast, they both have some feel in their songs (more John), and both are crazy technical (again, more John) but with John backed up with an actual functioning band I'd say the writing is better in Dream Theater...
Hell, who am I kidding, everything about Dream Theater is better

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Old 05-26-2010, 12:06 AM   #4
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Both are extremely talented, original, and innovative, and they are both way too different to compare.
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Old 05-26-2010, 12:08 AM   #5
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hmm... I'm noticing that I'm a little biased...
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Old 05-26-2010, 12:21 AM   #6
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Petrucci. He doesn't sound the same as much as Yngwie.
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How is this even close?

John Petrucci all the way.
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Old 05-26-2010, 01:15 PM   #8
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Neither is a favourite, but I prefer Yngwie.

I've heard John's solo material, his work with DT and his work with LTE. He's certainly got some terrifying technique, and I do like some of what he's done, but his playing just doesn't really do it for me. I don't like his tone(I actually actively dislike it) or how he articulates the notes he plays. I suppose it doesn't help him either that I really don't like LaBrie's voice.

I don't like much of what Yngwie has done (though more than what I've enjoyed from JP), but I think he's had a lot of great tones (Rising Force, Marching Out, Trilogy) and his vibrato is fantastic. I really do think that most of the "shreddy nonsense" he releases is purely him catering to the speed freaks that make up most of his audience.
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Neither is a favourite, but I prefer Yngwie.

I've heard John's solo material, his work with DT and his work with LTE. He's certainly got some terrifying technique, and I do like some of what he's done, but his playing just doesn't really do it for me. I don't like his tone(I actually actively dislike it) or how he articulates the notes he plays. I suppose it doesn't help him either that I really don't like LaBrie's voice.

I don't like much of what Yngwie has done (though more than what I've enjoyed from JP), but I think he's had a lot of great tones (Rising Force, Marching Out, Trilogy) and his vibrato is fantastic. I really do think that most of the "shreddy nonsense" he releases is purely him catering to the speed freaks that make up most of his audience.



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Neither is a favourite, but I prefer Yngwie.

I've heard John's solo material, his work with DT and his work with LTE. He's certainly got some terrifying technique, and I do like some of what he's done, but his playing just doesn't really do it for me. I don't like his tone(I actually actively dislike it) or how he articulates the notes he plays. I suppose it doesn't help him either that I really don't like LaBrie's voice.

I don't like much of what Yngwie has done (though more than what I've enjoyed from JP), but I think he's had a lot of great tones (Rising Force, Marching Out, Trilogy) and his vibrato is fantastic. I really do think that most of the "shreddy nonsense" he releases is purely him catering to the speed freaks that make up most of his audience.


hah good too see some of the older cats making their rounds.

John Petrucci should take a retreat from guitar playing for a while and come back with something fresh. His playing has to be the most contrived now amongst modern guitar players. His playing is like this obscenely bloated propaganda on guitar technique and its benefits to society. Cannot stand it his playing or the rotten carcass and parody of the word "progressive" that DT is.

That said, at this stage I can't take Yngwie's playing either. The only difference is, Yngwie has never and will never give a ****. So that kinda elevates him in my book. In fact, when I get bored trying to figure Coltrane changes, I jump into the opening riff from "Krakatau" to give me some perspective on life and the universe, etc.
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Old 05-28-2010, 03:01 PM   #12
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I LIKE Yngwie better. but if you gave them a genre different from usual it would be at about the same skill level. theyre hard to compare though since different genres but i would have to go with Yngwie
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Old 05-28-2010, 06:18 PM   #13
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John Petrucci all the way, for basically the same reasons that have been previously stated. And the fact that John isn't an arrogant asshole is a big plus for me as well, but that doesn't affect the skills.
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I find John Petrucci's playing to be a little bit more interesting, but I enjoy both of them.
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Old 05-28-2010, 09:13 PM   #15
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John Petrucci should take a retreat from guitar playing for a while and come back with something fresh. His playing has to be the most contrived now amongst modern guitar players. His playing is like this obscenely bloated propaganda on guitar technique and its benefits to society. Cannot stand it his playing or the rotten carcass and parody of the word "progressive" that DT is.
Woah dude calm down. John Petrucci is a man who is simply more disciplined than most when it comes to the guitar, that doesn't make him contrived.
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Woah dude calm down. John Petrucci is a man who is simply more disciplined than most when it comes to the guitar, that doesn't make him contrived.


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I think Yngwie has the upper hand when it comes to technique, but JP's music is a lot more interesting.
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Old 05-29-2010, 06:12 AM   #18
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For speed, versatility and accuracy/cleanliness JP has him beat.

But in terms of phrasing (especially vibrato), Yngwie shits on him. His vibrato is probably the best I've ever heard, along with Marty Friedman and Gary Moore.
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Old 05-30-2010, 09:09 AM   #19
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Yngwie all the way, He has the best vibrato in the world, and his older stuff is amazing.

John petrucci is a machine, and he can't improvise for toffee.
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Yngwie all the way, He has the best vibrato in the world, and his older stuff is amazing.

John petrucci is a machine, and he can't improvise for toffee.





At around 4:10, it is all improvised. This came before The Count of Tuscany btw.
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