05-30-2010, 08:10 PM
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Does someone know all the scales that slash uses?
Hey i'm learning scales and i'd like to know all scales Slash ever used in GnR + modes
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05-30-2010, 08:17 PM
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A good place to start is the major and minor pentatonic. They are the essential rock and blues scales.
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05-30-2010, 08:17 PM
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pentatonic scales is about it lol
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05-30-2010, 08:19 PM
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its all basically pentatonic with a few passing notes. The intro for the infamous Sweet Child Of Mine is based on the pentatinis scale of Em with a few passing note.
The scale I'm on about is |----------------------------------------------------------------12--14--15-| |------------------------------------------------------12--15----------------| |-------------------------------------12--14--15----------------------------| |---------------------------12--14-------------------------------------------| |-----------12--13--14------------------------------------------------------| |-12--15----------------------------------------------------------------------| I think this is right lol |
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05-30-2010, 08:22 PM
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Along with pentatonics and blues scales, he also uses some natural minor and the occasional harmonic minor. However, it's not scales that make a song sound the way they do; it's the way that the scales are used.
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05-30-2010, 08:24 PM
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I know pentatonic + blues and major + its 7 modes.
but there must be more , Like the scale used in sweet child o mine sounds like harmonic minor or melodic minor. Also double talking jive has those spanish notes in that i don't know of. Also i think he uses diminished 1/2 That can't be it guys Also what is this natural minor scale , first time i heard of it ( does it have anything to do with harmonic / melodic minor ? ) Last edited by Goodnighttnight : 05-30-2010 at 08:26 PM. |
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05-30-2010, 08:31 PM
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nah natural minor has a b3 b6 and b7. Its also called the aeolian mode.
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05-30-2010, 08:36 PM
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So basically Natural minor is the same as one of Major scale's modes - the aeolian ?
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05-30-2010, 08:43 PM
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lololol
Natural minor is the regular minor scale. It has the same notes as aeolian but is a different thing.
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05-30-2010, 08:52 PM
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So that all ?
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05-30-2010, 09:07 PM
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slash does use some "custom" scale that I've seen, I don't know the name. It's based on the minor scale but I THINK it had a raised 4th. I'm not a fan, this is just something I remember my friend looking at once. google "slash scale", might bring some joy
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05-30-2010, 11:42 PM
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A minor scale with a raise fourth? I think that'd be the blues note... so it'd be natural minor scale with a chomatic passing tone; the blues note.
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05-31-2010, 01:13 AM
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Minor pentatonic plus random added notes. Thats about it.
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05-31-2010, 05:52 AM
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The natural minor scale is the same notes as the Aeolian mode. And Double Talkin Jive could well be just natural minor, it's just played on a classical guitar. Pretty sure he doesn't use melodic minor, but there might be touches of harmonic minor in Night Train. And that's it, he just uses pentatonics, major and minor scales. He's just very, very good at getting a lot out of just a handful of notes.
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05-31-2010, 08:42 AM
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Ok, Slash doesn't use any modes at all. It's the truth - he doesn't play modal music.
Learn some GNR songs, and he'll constantly use major, minor and penatonic scales. Common runs of his are a combination of the blues and melodic minor scales. So for example; Sweet Child of Mine uses the E minor, minor penatonic and melodic minor for the solo. No modes kids. If you think this song uses modes at all, it's time to relearn your theory.
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09-30-2010, 11:10 AM
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Slash does use modes, though he might not realise it himself. For example the intro riff (and chord sequence) to Sweet Child O' Mine uses the D Mixolydian Mode (same notes as G Major).
The Major scale itself is a mode (Ionian) as is the Natural Minor scale (Aelion) |
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09-30-2010, 11:49 AM
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This is truth. The fast build-up run in Sweet Child O' Mine solo is also Mixolydian. The rest of the solo fits in the E minor scale fairly well. |
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09-30-2010, 12:23 PM
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No, he doesn't use modes, he uses accidentals, these are not the same thing. To use modes you have to be specifically playing modally in the first place. And the major and minor scale may have the same notes as a pair of modes but their function and application is vastly different: they are not the same thing.
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09-30-2010, 12:34 PM
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That's bullshit. That's like saying to play the 10th fret of the A string you have to be playing in the mindset that permits it - a mode is just a bunch of notes played with emphasis on a specific tonal centre. You don't need to be 'playing modally' to imply a specific tonal centre - if that tonal centre is implied and you're playing notes from mixolydian then you're playing in the mixolydian mode whether you think you are or not. |
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09-30-2010, 01:12 PM
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How do you mean he doesnt use modes at all when the natural minor is essentially a mode of the major scale? scales and modes go hand in hand no? I guess its just so common that no one considers something written in minor to be modal as if it were wirrten in phrygian or something else. Correct me if I am wrong, and this opinion of mine has taken a long time to develop, but when using a mode you are simply taking the notes from one scale and shifting the focus to another note so it feels like its the root in your song. if youre just playing single notes its likely to simply just sound like the major scale the mode youre playing is based off of, which is why the backing track and your chord selection is so key in focusing your ear on the note which you want to be the root.
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