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Old 12-15-2014, 12:49 AM   #1
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This guy has a bunch of YouTube videos talking about guitar myths. Is this guy nuts or does he have good points?
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Old 12-15-2014, 01:45 AM   #2
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I'm VERY on the fence about him. Half the time it seems like he has no idea what he's talking about like oh you don't need to put say lemon oil on the fretboard and the other half the time he can be insightful.

Hopefully he's just really opinionated. Like his way or the highway like so many on forums who think fender and gibson are winner brands that you need to play to be signed and nothing else lmao.


the big question is how the hell does he have so many guitars unless he owns a shop, his lessons really do pull in that kind of coin or something. BUT it could be worse; ever see the tone king he is a terrible guitar player to the point I made a parody video of him on youtube.
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Old 12-15-2014, 01:58 AM   #3
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This guy has a bunch of YouTube videos talking about guitar myths. Is this guy nuts or does he have good points?


Depends on which video and what day of the week it is.
Not someone you want to invest a lot of time and video watching in (IMHO, of course).
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Old 12-15-2014, 04:36 AM   #4
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He may or may not be right about anything... but I can't watch him because he thinks that anyone who disagrees with him is instantly stupid and not even worth talking to or about.

Whether he's right or not, that's not how you change people's minds to your way of thinking.

Basically, he's a dick and I don't like him.
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Old 12-15-2014, 04:50 AM   #5
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Ive spent a few hours watching his videos. I really like the rants that he goes off on, and he does like to call people some interesting things. But if you let go of mom's tit for long enough and actually listen, he says just as many bad things about himself. I'd rather listen to guys like him than guys who suck up your arse blatantly in an effort to separate you from your money. The Tone King I'm a little bet Meh on, there's not a whole lot going on with his video's and even though I do subscribe, I rarely watch his gear now. The two that I will watch very happily are Pixxy Lixxx and Phil X on the Fretted Americana channel. Geez theres some bloody nice axes on that channel...
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Old 12-15-2014, 05:56 AM   #6
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Thinks he knows more than he does.Right about some stuff and wrong about other stuff but always thinks he's right even when he's not.Imo.
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Old 12-15-2014, 06:35 AM   #7
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Yeah but I guess sometimes we put a little too much weight in these sorts of vlogs, its just entertainment...
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Old 12-15-2014, 08:25 AM   #8
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He's a tool. Says some pretty solid stuff inside his BS though.
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Old 12-15-2014, 09:33 AM   #9
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He's completely right about guitar wood having no effect on guitar tone
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Old 12-15-2014, 09:37 AM   #10
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He's completely right about guitar wood having no effect on guitar tone


Lets not turn this thread into another one of those threads
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Old 12-15-2014, 09:45 AM   #11
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He may or may not be right about anything... but I can't watch him because he thinks that anyone who disagrees with him is instantly stupid and not even worth talking to or about.

Whether he's right or not, that's not how you change people's minds to your way of thinking.

Basically, he's a dick and I don't like him.

Anybody with that attitude is just about the worst person to know, I can't stand anyone that decides that if they don't agree, believe, or care for something, it's "stupid". Those people tend to either be pseudo-intellectual know-it-alls or stubborn morons, I've yet to meet someone with that shitty attitude that actually knows what they're talking about when they act that way.

Back on topic:

Scott Grove is right sometimes but just like darts; even if you suck, throw enough at a dartboard and you'll eventually hit a bullseye.

Tone King is wrong most of the time and somehow manages to make every piece of gear he "demos" sound like complete arse

Chappers, though somewhat knowledgeable, is clearly a bit of a jerk if you watch the way he interacts with the owner of Anderton's and the guitars his company makes are shoddy and come off as a cash-in on his internet popularity. I'd have more respect for him if he just had an established company make a sig model for him even if it cost way more than it should.

Phil X seems a little less than down to earth sometimes and is normally fed info from a crew member for the videos he does, but unlike most reviewers he at least has real credentials as a player. He had a name for himself before doing guitar videos, and his popularity probably won't disappear after he stops making videos.
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Old 12-15-2014, 10:04 AM   #12
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^ you summed it up perfectly.




Besides, Doug and Pat are the kings of guitar channels
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Phil X seems a little less than down to earth sometimes and is normally fed info from a crew member for the videos he does, but unlike most reviewers he at least has real credentials as a player. He had a name for himself before doing guitar videos, and his popularity probably won't disappear after he stops making videos.


Phil X is the only one of the four that I've actually met (at the LA Amp Show, where he walks around and gawks at cool stuff like the rest of us).

"Credentials" as a guitar player is probably an understatement; you realize he was Richie Sambora's replacement on a recent Bon Jovi tour, when Richie was rehabbing (again), right? He's quiet and introspective if you're having lunch with him, and he's exactly that guy in the videos when he's got people standing around watching him play. And in a band setting, he fully realizes who the star is, but he's also willing to bring a lot of energy when it's time. You'd like hanging with him.
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Old 12-15-2014, 10:16 AM   #14
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While most of it seems fairly accurate, this part IMO is just plain wrong:

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And the guitars his company makes are shoddy and come off as a cash-in on his internet popularity.

I've actually played a couple of them when I passed Andertons on the way back from a gig and can attest to their quality. They feel like 600-800 worth of guitar and are really well made.
I mean, they have won awards.
They weren't for me, though. I'm an Ibanez guy, but you don't have to like the feel to feel the quality.

Other than that, I'd agree with pretty much all of what you said. (How the **** can TK make some of those amps sound THAT bad!?)
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He's completely right about guitar wood having no effect on guitar tone

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Old 12-15-2014, 10:29 AM   #16
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Scott is a wanker. Very arrogant. Thinks he knows way more than he think he does. He is occasionally right about a few things though.

That and his guitar collection is pretty awesome.
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That and his guitar collection is pretty awesome.


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Scott Grove: Hoarder of Icemans & All things KISS.
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Old 12-15-2014, 10:34 AM   #18
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I think Scott Grove makes a lot of valid poits but his videos are always too damn long. I kind of enjoy his "asshole" attitude because he makes fun of himslf also. He does pop the baloon on a lot of guitar myths and he can be annoying but he is often correct.

I love Phil X (Xenidis) videos. The guy plays great in any style of music and is just naturally funny. He'd be fun to sit down and have a beer with. He never talks down about anyone else's opinions and has a great resume. Not just his time with Bon Jovi but his work with Alice Cooper, Tommy Lee, Avil Lavigne and Rob Zombie to name a few.
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Scott Grove: Hoarder of Icemans & All things KISS.

Hoarder of guitars that half of which he absolutely hates.
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Hoarder of guitars that half of which he absolutely hates.



You know he can put 2 of them back to back and strum one so you can figure out how long it takes you to realize how much of an idiot you are for watching his channel.
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