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Old 09-20-2010, 11:57 AM   #1
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So having recently finished doing up my Ibanez 7 string (in sig) with a nice new natural finish and upgraded electronics, im starting my first cab build!

The cab is going to be constructed using marine grade 18mm ply, finger joints and lots of internal bracing. Basically bomb-proof with no regard for weight (im young, its cool...).

Dimensions are based on small vintage 2x12s, although with a deeper profile more akin to a modern cab.

Im open to speaker suggestions, currently im hovering over a pair of Vintage 30s.

A quick mock up in SketchUp (not to scale) to show the basics. Stay tuned, im having the wood cut tomorrow morning!







EDIT: PICS OF FINISHED CAB FOR THOSE TOO LAZY TO FIND EM!






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Old 09-20-2010, 04:24 PM   #2
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Ohh that looks cool. Do you have the OHMS and stuff planned out?
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Old 09-20-2010, 07:44 PM   #3
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18mm is quite thick. If you use that and do finger joints, I think the only place you will really need internal bracing is down the center of the baffle.

Certainly looks like you are planning this out well! What program did you use for you drawings?
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Old 09-21-2010, 03:35 AM   #4
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Thanks for the input fellas. I havn't fully decided on the speaker config yet but im thinking something like two 60-100w drivers at 16 ohms each, wired in parallel for an 8 ohm mono end result.

That model was produced in Google's SketchUp 3D CAD program, pretty easy to use

Will update with pics when I get the wood tomorrow... anybody have any idea where to buy good quality tolex in the UK that won't cost an arm and a leg?
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Old 09-21-2010, 04:12 AM   #5
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I'd go for 8 ohm speakers if you can. Most manufacturers just add a longer voice coil to their 8ohm units which means most of the coil is outside the magnet so you lose damping and efficiency. So long as your amp is happy with 4 or 16 ohms overall there will be no problems.

Finger joints need specialised machinery to do well and unless you have this i wouldn't bother they are really just a mass production technique.
Reinforced butt joints are stronger and add a little to the bracing of panels and are much easier for the home constructor.

Apart from that it looks good.
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Old 09-21-2010, 04:27 AM   #6
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Thanks Phil, my amp is fine with 16 or 4 ohms so will look at 8 ohm speakers.

I can do good finger joints in my sleep, and nice dovetails when I have the time, so ill only go for butt joints if my time is pressed (trying to find a new job and move house...)

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Old 09-21-2010, 08:28 AM   #7
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Sounds like you know what you are doing, your probably a better chippie than me as I usually **** up anything more complicated than a mortice and tenon.

Putting a 1"x1" batten all along the joint gives the same glue area as a finger joint but you now have screws and glue. Srewing down the batten also cantilevers the panel a little and dampens panel resonances. The only reason manufacturers don't use it is because it is labour intensive. Finger joints are easy to machine and make glueing up easier.

Finger joints are neat and strong but slightly less good sonically though you probably won't hear much difference in practice.
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Old 09-21-2010, 11:23 AM   #8
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Looks good! Yours looks pretty cool, be awesome if it turns out to be that good. I built a cab a while back too. It's a lot cheaper to build it. And you can make it just as you want it.
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Old 09-21-2010, 06:24 PM   #9
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Haha thanks guys, I intend to construct it as professionally as possible and have it look the part too.

Havn't had a chance to inspect or pick up the cut parts from the wood yard yet but the manager tells me its perfect and ready for collection.

So, this morning before work I ordered some more bits for this build:



2x Eminence Red Coat "The Governor" 75w 8 ohms



2x Pressed steel Marshall style bar handles



8x Fender corners

Up next, some tolex... my girlfriend said if I cover it in Orange style tolex its living in the garage... so im thinking maybe some nice Mesa style tolex?
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Old 09-21-2010, 07:09 PM   #11
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How did you get those speakers in Sketchup!?
I'm planning on making a 2x12" cab soon as well. For fun. I may have made Sketchup Drawings. Can't remember if I did.

Sounds like it's gonna turn out good!
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Old 09-21-2010, 07:36 PM   #12
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How about white tolex, or oxblood?
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^ That works, too. Oxblood tolex + Salt'n'Pepper grill cloth. Smex with speakers.
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Mocked up a few tolex/grill cloth choices in SketchUp...

















Im liking 2, 4 and 6... the Mesa style brown tolex on 7 and 8 is awesome, but sooo expensive
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Old 09-22-2010, 04:46 AM   #15
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I'd go for 5. That brown/snakeskin stuff is kinda tacky.
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Old 09-22-2010, 05:05 AM   #17
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this is awesome. and your "mock ups" are real cool too. hahaha

btw, 1 = marshall, 2 = line6, 3 = green, 4 = egnator, 5 = more green?

all but 3, 5 look awesome to me. but i like 1, 6.
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Old 09-22-2010, 05:25 AM   #19
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the green one, or the one below the green one
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I kind of like the first one, but I think it would look good with white tolex, and black grill cloth. Thats how I like my cabs. Anyway, I think it will turn out great!
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