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Old 12-09-2010, 06:43 AM   #1
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'Seagulls' Wah mod

So i know if you reverse the in/out on some wahs it makes the seagull effect, i was wondering if you could wire a toggle switch to reverse the in/out of it ?
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Old 12-09-2010, 06:53 AM   #2
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I don't know about one switch changing two channels, but you could definitely use 2 toggle switches, 1 to change each path.
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Old 12-09-2010, 07:07 AM   #3
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could i use a 4pdt toggle switch ? How would i wire it with two seperate switches ?
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Old 12-09-2010, 07:29 AM   #4
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I don't know, so long as it switches two things at once, then it should work.
I've just been looking up a heap pics trying to find a decent wiring diagram that's labeled then i could just work it out.

There would definitely be a way. The 4 switch would probably work but it's getting late and i can't work it out tonight. Look through some wiring diagrams, you need to find one that will let you change 2 thigns at once, then that way will work.
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Old 12-09-2010, 07:34 AM   #5
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ok i'll have a scout around haha
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Old 12-09-2010, 08:09 AM   #6
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you only need a dpdt. just google 'dpdt polarity reversing switch'. wiring it is the same no matter what you are reversing, be it the in/out of a pedal, +/- of a battery, hot/gnd of a pickup, etc.
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Old 12-09-2010, 08:20 AM   #7
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Would this work?

Say i have my wah on a pedalboard, i have it set as a wah, i flick the switch, and the current would still go through the rest of my pedals and into my amp, without having to unplug anything ?
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Old 12-09-2010, 08:30 AM   #8
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yeah, that'll still work.
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Old 12-09-2010, 08:32 AM   #9
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Nice one! Thanks a lot jim!
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Old 12-09-2010, 08:40 AM   #10
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np. cheers
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Old 12-09-2010, 09:54 AM   #11
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hey, i just wired it up and it didnt work, nothing came through so i'm guessing i wired it wrong

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i wired the + of the input to 1
- input to 2
+ output to 3
- output to 4
then jumped 1 to 6
and 2 to 5

could you tell me how im meant to ?
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Old 12-09-2010, 09:59 AM   #12
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input jack tip to 3.
Output jack tip to 4
circuit input to 1 OR 5.
circuit output to 2 OR 6.
jumper 1 to 6.
jumper 2 to 5.

the way you had it, you were swapping around the hot and gnd of the jacks. the signal never even got to the pedal because it was grounded out in both positions.
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Old 12-09-2010, 10:39 AM   #13
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Pretty dumb question, but im a bit of a newbie with modding pedals and such.
Where can i find the input/output of the circuit ?
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Old 12-09-2010, 12:25 PM   #14
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There are 2 wires going for the input/output jacks. One is "hot" and the other is ground.
The ground wires are connected together and the hot wires are connected to the switch.
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It has to be a vintage style vox or crybaby from what I gleaned off youtube videos in a few minutes. Super cool effect though! I've never heard of this before.
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interesting...
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Old 12-09-2010, 06:53 PM   #17
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There are 2 wires going for the input/output jacks. One is "hot" and the other is ground.
The ground wires are connected together and the hot wires are connected to the switch.



Mine's soldered onto the PCB
I wired the two tips to the switch how jim said, but im having trouble finding the 'input and output to the circuit' :/
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the jacks are pc mount, yes? to find the input and output of the circuit, just trace where the tips of the jacks went when the bypass switch is in Effect mode..
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Old 12-09-2010, 10:16 PM   #19
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this sounds interesting.
Just basically swap the input and output? Sounds easy enough.
I added an output buffer to my GCB-95 (otherwise the fuzz pedal following the wah, kinda kills the wah effect). guess I would also have to figure that into the design.

any examples of how this sounds?
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Old 12-09-2010, 10:29 PM   #20
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IIRC GCB-95's come with a buffer stock...
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