CodeMonk

Input buffer maybe. But mine didn't have an output buffer.
Maybe later version did.
It works with the fuzz now whereas before it didn't. It also added a little bit of boost.

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Invader Jim

95's only have an input buffer.

the 'seagull' effect sounds best with no buffers and idk if it even works with 2 buffers.

Dan_5893

The middle section of Echoes by Pink Floyd.

I don't know how well this would work in conjunction with other effects, especially buffered ones. It probably wouldn't sound so great though.

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LeviMan_2001

I think it has to go at the very beginning of the chain as the tone knob is really acting as a component in the wah's circuit.

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Rossmillertarn!

right so this is what i have so far, i've followed it but i still dont really know where it's going :/

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Rossmillertarn!

Anyone ?

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Griffin Effects

You can't simply solder the wires to the output and input jack solder pads and have this work. You are going to have to cut all the traces coming from the jacks tips and run wires to the outer sets of lugs on the switch also.

Rossmillertarn!

Where would i have to cut / solder ?

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Ok. I did this really quick so someone may want to look over this before actually cutting. I personally would just remove the jacks and use chassis mount jacks. You probably wouldn't have to cut anything that way.

Basically you are going to need to isolate the jack tips so any trace coming off them (except for the ones that connect the two jack tips together) will need to be cut. Then all the points that were severed from the tip of that one jack that has all the traces off the tip solder pads need to be all connected together.

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CodeMonk

That looks good to me.
Mines gonna be different but not a big deal. I just have to bypass the input and output buffers.

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Rossmillertarn!

Thanks dude ! I'll give it a try tomorrow as i'm gigging tonight haha

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No problem.
Here's a how to from the Gilmore site:

- How do I make the “seagull” sound during the mid-section on Echoes?

This is a little complicated to describe, so let’s take this one step at a time… Note that this effect doesn’t work that well on humbuckers and it’s best achieved with either Vox or Dunlop Cry Baby wah wahs.

1. Connect your guitar to the OUTPUT and your amp/next effect to the INPUT on the Wah Wah,- reversed connection.
2. Set the pickup switch on your guitar in the 4. position (2. position from the bottom). Make sure that all 3 knobs are on 10.
3. Turn on the Wah Wah and let it stay with the “heel” all the way down. You should now hear a loud feedback.
4. Adjust the pitch of the feedback by carefully rolling down the lower tone knob (farthest from you). You should hear that the tone is pitched down. Somewhere between 2-3 the tone fades, but by making a really slow fadeout you can achieve the “laughing” effect.
5. Combine these techniques with switching the pickup switch up and down from position 1-5 and by adjusting the pitch on the wah wah.
- you’ll need to play quite loud and use some delay, 310ms.

Rossmillertarn!

It didn't work :/
now i'm worried by cutting the traces i've buggerred my wah up too

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Rossmillertarn!

Yeah, it's ****ed. I soldered all the trace parts back together now it doesnt 'wah' properly. Tried re-orienting the pot and allsorts :/

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salgala2000

Just calm down, take a break and take a good look at it again. Are there any bad joints? Broken wires? Wrong connections?

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Rossmillertarn!

nah it's all back as it was. Where the traces were cut i've soldered wire between the components to bypass the traces. if that makes sense ? haha

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Well I've looked over it a dozen times. As illustrated, it should absolutely work.

On the output jack, we just have to cut the one trace to isolate the jack tip.

On the input jack, we have to cut all the traces from both solder lugs of the jack tip. Then we have to connect them all together so signal will pass.

This leaves you with 4 connections on the board to be wired to the switch.

Not too complicated really. My guess is you didn't do it right especially since it doesn't work when you tried to reverse it.

Make sure you cut the right traces and didn't slip and cut any extra traces. Did you scrape enough of the green solder mask off each side of the cuts to solder properly? A multimeter with a continuity test can verify that you made proper connections. Did your cuts actually sever the trace? It only takes a hairline of copper to pass signal.

Can you post pictures? Maybe we can spot something. Also, did you try reversing the cables before doing this to make sure your wah will even make the sound?

Rossmillertarn!

Right, i dunno what happenned, but it's working again now :/
That was weird
i dunno what happenned tbh, i'll have another go tomorrow. Am i best off just using a craft knife to scrape the traces ?


yeah i did, works fine !

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LeviMan_2001

I looked over this and didn't see but what wah do you have?

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