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Old 02-22-2011, 07:56 PM   #1
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Im 16 years old ive been playing guitar for 2 years and bass for 1 year. i love metal, some of my favorites are Bullet for my Valentine (my favorite band, love there tone, but i would wish to have somthing more heavy), Parkway Drive, Whitechapel, In Flames, Soilwork, Bring me the Horizon, Dethklok, and August Burns Red. for my 16th birth day i received an MA 100H (http://www.marshallamps.com/product.asp?productId=148) and a 1960A 4x12 cab (http://www.jemsite.com/compare-guit...abinet/reviews/) which i love. Although i do like the marshall sound (as in i like Iron Maiden and Guns n Roses type tones), it dosnt fit my style of music (metal ). so im thinking of selling my ma100h and save up to get either a Mesa Dual Recto, or Peavy 6505+, or Krankenstein (although im not sure how any of them will sound going through a 1960A cab by marshall). Can you list the pros and cons of each of these amps? i want a tone thats full like parkway drive, or august burns red, I LOVE THE BREAKDOWN!!!! so thanks alot guys. also looking to start a metal band in houston texas! (also if you could tell me how i could boost the gain on my ma100h that would b great too, i used my friends overdrive pedal, but its not tube sateration) also i would like a way to explain this to my dad (because he was the one who bought the amp) i dont want to make him fell like i did not appreciate it

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Old 02-22-2011, 08:06 PM   #2
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Check out the Peavey 6505 1x12 combo.
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Old 02-22-2011, 08:07 PM   #3
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Hey, first of call calm down a bit. Second of all I wish I could get an set-up that expensive for my birthday.

What's your budget? Big price difference between those two amps.
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Old 02-22-2011, 08:07 PM   #4
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tube amp or solid state?
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Old 02-22-2011, 08:09 PM   #5
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Hey, first of call calm down a bit. Second of all I wish I could get an set-up that expensive for my birthday.

What's your budget? Big price difference between those two amps.


well i have a job so whenever i get enough money for somthing...
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Old 02-22-2011, 08:09 PM   #6
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Slayer uses Marshalls, there metal

You can boost the gain on your amp buy using a boost or overdive pedal like you already tried, thats how most people boost there amps

not sure what you mean buy its not tube sateration, because thats what overdrive pedals make your amp do.

The Mesa and Peavey are good choices, I know nothing about the krank
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Old 02-22-2011, 08:10 PM   #7
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always go tube if you can
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Old 02-22-2011, 08:11 PM   #8
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Why don't you try Blackstar?


This model is about $100 cheaper than your current one.
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Old 02-22-2011, 08:12 PM   #9
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Slayer uses Marshalls, there metal

You can boost the gain on your amp buy using a boost or overdive pedal like you already tried, thats how most people boost there amps

not sure what you mean buy its not tube sateration, because thats what overdrive pedals make your amp do.

The Mesa and Peavey are good choices, I know nothing about the krank


what i ment by its not tube sateration is that when you turn the gain up on the amp, you get more gain, because of the tube, while with a pedal, it dosnt add to the tube
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Why don't you try Blackstar?


This model is about $100 cheaper than your current one.


eeh not really into that one it just sounds... eeh
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Old 02-22-2011, 08:16 PM   #11
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Seriously, Peavey 6505.
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what i ment by its not tube sateration is that when you turn the gain up on the amp, you get more gain, because of the tube, while with a pedal, it dosnt add to the tube


it adds to the tube, what goes in the amp travles through every preamp and power tube in the amp, except for a reverb driver tube

Thats why people use od's and boost's, they make tubes sceam!!

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Old 02-22-2011, 08:21 PM   #13
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it adds to the tube, what goes in the amp travles through every preamp and power tube in the amp, except for a reverb driver tube

Thats why people use od's and boost's, they make tubes sceam!!


it boosts the signal it dosnt go through the tube.
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Old 02-22-2011, 08:22 PM   #14
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6505. You won't be disappointed. If you need cleans or a separate EQ for each channel, the 6505+.
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Old 02-22-2011, 08:30 PM   #15
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what i ment by its not tube sateration is that when you turn the gain up on the amp, you get more gain, because of the tube, while with a pedal, it dosnt add to the tube


You dont get more gain just because of the tube, it just responds to everything thats happening in the circut before the tube.
theres a lot of thing that affects the gain of a amp
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it boosts the signal it dosnt go through the tube.


Your entire signal is a series of electrons. This signal travels throughout the circuit. The tubes are part of the circuit. Thus, the pedal pushes the tubes. That's the whole point of a boost.

Get the 6505.
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it boosts the signal it dosnt go through the tube.


And the signal travles through the tubes
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Your entire signal is a series of electrons. This signal travels throughout the circuit. The tubes are part of the circuit. Thus, the pedal pushes the tubes. That's the whole point of a boost.

Get the 6505.


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Old 02-22-2011, 08:35 PM   #19
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That's three votes for the 6505 dude. Hop on youtube and check it out.
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Old 02-22-2011, 08:41 PM   #20
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We need budget and location man.
You can get some stuff for dirt cheap used.

But yeah, I play similar stuff. Parkway is one of my favorite bands and my 6505 nails the tone. I'm selling it to get a Dual Rectifier 2 channel though. I love the 6505, but there's a couple reasons I'm getting rid of mine. I can get this Dual Rec for dirt cheap. I want to run a 2 head (Dual Rec and Peavey Ultra) and cab setup rather than 1 combo. With the Dual Rec and my Ultra, I'll have endless high gain possibilities and a very versatile setup. And when it comes down to it, I know I'll miss this amp but the tone isn't anything unique or special since almost every band in the genre uses it, although it is an amazing sounding amp and is very reliable. That's also one of the reasons I want a 2 channel Dual Rec too, it will sound very similar to the 3 channel Dual Recs so widely used today, but it will still be a bit different.

None of that really matters to you, but 6505 and Dual Rec's are definitely where to look for metalcore. Moreso the 6505 IMO.
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