Jack Off Jill

Some feminism IS about female supremacy. It's the same thing as Malcolm X being referred to as a civil rights leader when he advocated that blacks and whites should be separate.

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mr freezy

I love how women are complaing now the retirement age for women is being raised to the same as mens. I saw some "femminist" on the news the other day complaining about, completely missing the irony that they are now equal to men.

I'm all for equality, but you gotta take the good with the bad.

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I'm totally okay with stripping and porn and everything but I do feel like a lot of women get pushed into the idea of selling their bodies because they feel like it's the most cash they can make and aren't worth much more. It's a sticky subject. I don't think porn in itself is degrading to women, and I watch plenty of porn myself, but I do think the market surrounding porn can be degrading.


I'm going for a really broad, modern, un-niched view of feminism. I'm not delving deep in because this whole thing is about semantics. Cory, you're better-versed in the area, so you're going to have a different take on it of course.

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Carswell98

can you provide examples, if you don't mind?

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JustRooster

I've yet to really read someone exemplify a situation in which there is a gross inequality towards women.

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Silver-spear94

i'm sure they weren't interested in fighting for equal rights during national service and conscription eh (:

Jack Off Jill

There are many feminist movements who feel that doing pornography and things of that nature is degrading to women so women shouldn't do it. If they do it, they don't help with the cause of feminism. This is a common cry amongst many feminists, especially more classical ones. However, I'm a firm believer that doing what you want regardless of what you're told to do, by society... sexist or feminist alike... is more empowering. These types of feminists don't understand that THEY'RE the ones degrading the women, because they're the ones judging them. Just as much as any man who views her as an object. They're treating her like she's brainless or helpless or whatever.

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JustRooster

Truth. In so many ways.






Watch those links in order. Women in pornography don't feel degraded, they feel empowered. They are only told they SHOULD feel degraded. Forcing your opinion on someone and asking for civil rights should both be forthright motives in your cause if you want to be taken seriously.

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The Madcap

Done.

I really don't see why people are so offended by the word itself. Yeah, I suppose there could be a better word than feminism, but meh. Not a huge issue to me. I think a lot of guys just find it emasculating to call themselves that. So I support this thread.

Also, ITT: People who think they're witty and clever for making an unoriginal sandwich joke.

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Greenie_777

I don't think anyone thinks it's witty or clever it's just funny.

Sexist, racist and natural disaster jokes are always funny.

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Jack Off Jill

Well, one example are certain groups of Dominatrix folk. Many consider themselves feminists which is why they insist on being dominant. My television is sitting on my trunks filled with books, so I'm just going to have to see if I can find a link on amazon to books which talk about it. But there's a reason why many feminist groups use Lilith as an icon. It doesn't necessarily have to do with equality. But Lilith disobeyed Adam. And many of these women are firm advocates that Adam came from Lilith.

Feminism isn't necessarily even about equality. It's about empowerment. Whether that empowerment leads to equality in some feminists is just as important in other feminists believing they're better than men. And some feminists don't want either, they just want better lives than they have now.

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Silver-spear94

they see me trollin'... they hatin'.

Dirge Humani

But if I change my user title, how will people know my name D:

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Greenie_777

You could be...

Tyler the Feminist.

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"Feminist" has been unfairly turned into a dirty word. Both by those who sought to discredit feminists in order to maintain the gender status quo and by feminazis who preached their own brand of hate under the banner of "feminism." Sexism and gender discrimination against both men and women still exists today. Although many great strives have been made in the West for women, inequalities still exist and women in non-Western spheres are still particularly vulnerable to unfair treatment.

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zYx Monster xYz

I only came here to post that joke!!!!

What do you call a women with an opinion???

Wrong!!!

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Jack Off Jill

Or, "Tyler doesn't really care, he just wants to get some pooooontang."

Nevermind, I'm taking that one.

Inability to agree with one another?

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