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Old 04-28-2008, 07:44 PM   #61
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i think i've lost the determination of the practicing the song. so you can probably remove me from the list. i haven't practiced the song in like 4 days
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Old 04-28-2008, 09:36 PM   #62
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I'll do it.
Not sure what song. I'll come back with one though
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Old 04-28-2008, 09:36 PM   #63
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Im in. Flight of the Bumble bee, here I come!
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Old 04-29-2008, 02:43 AM   #64
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Its a good idea in general but a complete waste of time. So your basically taking 2-3 months to learn a song. practicing something for 3 weeks straight with no raise in incriment will do nothing but have you know the song at a slower speed. So what? The point of an exercise is to increase when your comfortable with movement... not stay the same, otherwise you will never progress.
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Old 05-05-2008, 02:47 PM   #65
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So how is it going? Its soon 21 days and i can play my song way faster than before. Still not att full tempo tho.
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Old 05-05-2008, 07:45 PM   #66
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Its a good idea in general but a complete waste of time. So your basically taking 2-3 months to learn a song. practicing something for 3 weeks straight with no raise in incriment will do nothing but have you know the song at a slower speed. So what? The point of an exercise is to increase when your comfortable with movement... not stay the same, otherwise you will never progress.


I agree..yesterday I took a little fast part of the intro and the 1st verse from laid to rest and set them up in powertab to just repeat over and over. I started at 60bpm (originally 120) without ever being able to play them and now after just going over it again and again I can play both at 90bpm today. It's just pretty much common sense to start slow and work your way up to getting faster. The problem I see in this 21 days thing is just being able to play this for 21 days straight. Normally I get bored of playing a song after a day and have to move on and try something else before coming back to it and trying it again.
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Old 05-07-2008, 12:43 AM   #67
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yeah i dont get it either
if you can already play it perfectly, why would you decrease the speed?
since its PERFECT
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Old 05-07-2008, 03:21 PM   #68
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It's a mental thing. If your brain is so used to an activity, the activity will be like second nature.

Look at it this way, You brush your teeth every day (hopefully). When you are brushing them do you actually have to think to yourself and say "Now I should clean the sides of my teeth" or do you just do it?

That is the reasoning behind this method. It's 21 days because scientists belive that's how long the brain needs before it actually becomes a habit.

This also works on brand new guitarists. If you watch them progress 21 days, around that amount of time they will get one of those "Bursts" in skill. I'm sure this happened to you at some point, right? You suddenly realize that you got a little bit better.

I'm not saying this method WILL work, but it's just a more scientific way of practicing.
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Old 05-07-2008, 05:05 PM   #69
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Listen guys. This I've stickied this thread because its an interesting idea.

This thread is not to discuss weather its a good idea, bad idea, rubbish idea.
The point is, you practice your song for 21 days and report on the progress in hope that it will improve guitarists skills.

Complaining and saying how much of a rubbish idea will be seen as spam.
You know what happens to spammers.
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Old 05-08-2008, 05:41 AM   #70
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alright guys, just reporting back. i have to admit i sort of lost the determination to go through the whole experiment. but i would have to admit this experiment does have some merit. for one i have definately improved in learning the song i was trying to learn. i can play it well at about 50% of the original speed. i wasn't disciplined enough to practise the song perfectly everyday for an hour. i sort of got bored after a while and raised the tempo and practised a little sloppily.
but all in all, i suppose this way of learning does indeed work.
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Old 05-08-2008, 08:09 PM   #71
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Oh my god, I can't believe it's stickied! Anyway, I'm updating the list again. To be honest... And yes, it's quite a shame... I've lost determination to practice my songs a LONG time ago. I joined/made a new band, and I'm pretty busy with school work too, but I am definitely going to watch how this whole thing progresses and if it really did turn out to be a good (but boring) way of practicing.
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Old 05-09-2008, 12:08 AM   #72
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haha good luck with that one!
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Old 05-09-2008, 02:47 PM   #73
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sup sander lol (that's asfastasdark's name in real life btw i can only call him that got it??!?!) Its me rob im going to practice slayer blackmagic for 21 days w00t!!!! I am going to call you l8tr bye dude good job on sticky!!!
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Old 05-09-2008, 04:26 PM   #74
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Lol, thanks Rob... (Real-life friend ) you do that... And yes my real name is Sander.
Anyway guys, I'm just trying to finish up some songs for our band here (Freedom and its Way), and add lyrics to them, but the school year is almost over (two more weeks! ) so things will be speeding up soon!
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Old 05-09-2008, 09:38 PM   #75
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well set it at say 40 beats per minute. and in between every click you hit 4 notes. so if it goes click click click you should have picked a string or multiple strings 8 times to put it into easiest terms
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Old 05-09-2008, 09:54 PM   #76
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Can i use the Metronome while trying to get fast at playing "My Dick"? I'm really slow at it right now.
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Old 05-09-2008, 10:05 PM   #77
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this sounds really interesting..
can i sign up at any time? or did it have to be right back at the start??
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Old 05-11-2008, 10:42 AM   #78
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im in
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Old 05-11-2008, 03:05 PM   #79
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Im also in!

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Old 05-11-2008, 03:22 PM   #80
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So I guess it is time for me to put up my results. For The Love Of God please read either this post or the video description to know what is going on.

I thought I would make it interesting and also compare it to a few other training methods. For each training method, I'll start at the speed I was able to play the lick at first then speed up until it becomes unnecessarily sloppy - so you can compare the gains made overall, and those made while retaining accuracy. I'll only play small sections of each song for the sake of time.

01. 21 Day Method - One Speed
01. I practiced the insane string skipping solo from Racer X's Scarified at a single speed for the 21 days.

02. 21 Day Method - Burst
02. I practiced the arpeggio section from Jason Becker's Altitudes mostly at a single speed, with a burst in speed - to the maximum possible - every 10 to 20 times through it.

03. Gradual Method - No Burst
03. I practiced one of Paul Gilbert's signature licks by gradually upping the tempo once I had played it cleanly five times.

04. Gradual Method - Burst
04. I practiced the Bach inspired section of Racer X's Scarified - as well as the rest of the song sans solo - sticking generally to the Gradual Method but also throwing in a speed burst every 10 to 20 times through it.

05. Noob Method
05. Just to really emphasize that all of these practice methods have their merits - which may not be apparent since I can't play in front of a camera at all, I decided to try learning the Iron Man solo with only full speed attempts - and it really sucks. I don't even bother to finish it since you guys get the point within a few seconds.

You guys can judge which one seems to be most efficient. To put things into context, I've been playing guitar for a little over 2 years and have practiced: alternate picking for 1.5 years, string skipping for 1 year, and sweep picking for 0.5 years.

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