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Old 03-24-2011, 03:48 PM   #21
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Firstly, and most importantly, I think I speak for everyone here: you can NEVER have too many pictures! Keep posting.

And nice work so far. Keen to see how this turns out. You seems to be so chilled about the whole thing like its not all that difficult to build a good guitar! I like the confidence man.
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Old 03-24-2011, 03:54 PM   #22
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I dont think it's strong enough, Warmoth doesn't offer it as a neck option so I'd personally be a bit concerned.


A fair few luthiers make necks out of ash, Michael Tobias definitely does.

I don't think he needs to worry.
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Old 03-24-2011, 04:09 PM   #23
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Well, this particular piece of ash is pretty damn strong, I'm actually surprised that I haven't managed to dent it at all yet, as I usually somehow do.

According to wikipedia, ash apparently has a hardness of 1320, which is harder than walnut, and MUCH harder than both african and honduran mahogany. Plus this is a pretty straight grained piece so I figure that I'll probably be ok when it comes to warping and twisting. We'll see how it turns out.

With the headstock I can always build up the face side with more ash and plane the extra from the other side to get it to a manageable thickness, If its too weak I'll leave space for some steel rods inside the headstock, sort of like mini truss rods.

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And nice work so far. Keen to see how this turns out. You seems to be so chilled about the whole thing like its not all that difficult to build a good guitar! I like the confidence man.

My course is in cabinet making, and this is way more fun than making tables and surprisingly easier...
I don't want to sound like I know it all but thanks, we'll see how it goes.
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Old 03-24-2011, 09:17 PM   #24
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I think the only thing I would worry about with that step is the break angle. It might be kind of nasty harsh as is.
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Old 03-29-2011, 03:05 PM   #25
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According to wikipedia, ash apparently has a hardness of 1320, which is harder than walnut, and MUCH harder than both african and honduran mahogany. Plus this is a pretty straight grained piece so I figure that I'll probably be ok when it comes to warping and twisting. We'll see how it turns out.

Hardness =/= Strength. Flexural modulus is what you're looking for, and it is lower than the normal neck woods. Just trying to help, but either way its good practice and I'm sure it'll work for at least a while.
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Old 03-29-2011, 04:11 PM   #26
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I know what you mean there, I was just going for a general figure, thanks anyway.
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Old 03-29-2011, 04:59 PM   #27
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if its regular ash you should be fine. baseball bats and canoe paddles are made from ash.
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Old 03-29-2011, 06:50 PM   #28
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If the truss rod does it job too, you'll be fine. If yo do see warping (which I doubt) just switch to lighter gauge. Looking god though, I need to make an explorer soon....
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Old 03-29-2011, 06:52 PM   #29
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, I need to make an explorer soon....



yeah, ive been meaning to as well. ive done almost everything else.

next time im buying wood il find a nice big chunk of korina for an explorer..
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Old 03-30-2011, 12:59 PM   #30
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Its one of those hot rod double truss rods they sell at stewmac, so I'm pretty sure it'll hold out.
Thats actually the reason that theres that massive drop on the headstock, according to their instruction you have to have the adjusting nut at the bottom, so I cut away enough so i could get the Allen key to it.

Also +1 to the explorer love

EDIT: Major, major edit.

So, managed to get the body cut out, and look, no burn!
http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/...pg?t=1301507443
http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/...pg?t=1301507443

The body is a bit smaller than normal, sort of a 7/8ths normal size which i should probably have compensated for as the longer neck makes it look tiny...
http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/...pg?t=1301507443

Levelling the body with a scraper plane. Great tool.
http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/...pg?t=1301507443
http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/...pg?t=1301507443

Sanded down the dots. Sorry for the blurry photos, the camera will not focus on them
http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/...pg?t=1301507443
http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/...pg?t=1301507443

Anyway, time to fix that headstock. I thought up a few different solutions for this, recessing the tuning pegs so they'd stick out more, cutting this one of and going for an angled headstock, or building it up and reinforcing it. I chose the last one in the end. These metal bars are going into the neck/ headstock area, and are fixed in with silicon.
http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/...pg?t=1301507767
http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/...pg?t=1301507767
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Old 03-30-2011, 02:38 PM   #31
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Forgot to photo it but I chiselled out a nice tight channel for each rod in the back of this piece of wood, lots of silicone went in with the rods so they won't be going anywhere.

http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/...pg?t=1301507767
http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/...pg?t=1301507767
http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/...pg?t=1301507767

The veneer is just to fill in a small gap caused by the rods between the old and new parts of the headstock, I didn't want to chisel any more wood away from the channels or else they would too thin and would be useless. It shouldn't affect the structural integrity of my botched together headstock, I'm sure the titebond seeped through it.
http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/...pg?t=1301509132
http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/...pg?t=1301509132

Extra little piece of headstock so I can cut it to the right shape
http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/...pg?t=1301509132
http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/...pg?t=1301509132

Truss rod access hole, I'll do a cover later too.
http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/...pg?t=1301509132
http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/...pg?t=1301509132

Now that I've finished hideously botching my headstock, I'll try to get the tuner holes drilled tomorrow. Also, I just thought of a solution to my small body, but I'm saving that for later :P
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Old 03-30-2011, 05:08 PM   #32
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Nice solution, looking forward to seeing more

edit: how about you thickness the body down until its rather thin, then glue basically a scaled up version of that design on the bottom, then use a rasp to fade them in togeather, you'll have a cool carved top that way too
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Old 04-27-2011, 02:03 PM   #33
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Ah god its been a while. My idea with the body was to plane the top down quite a bit, cut out a larger version like a cap and then bend and glue dark veneer round the body side to take up the remaining space. Or I could just leave out the top altogether. In the end I decided that it wasn't small enough to worry about anyway :P

So, lots of news. Got the tuning peg holes drilled, made a little template first so I didn't **** it up royally.
http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/...pg?t=1303926849
http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/...pg?t=1303926849

Shaped the neck and then the heel
http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/...pg?t=1303926849
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http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/...pg?t=1303926849
http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/...pg?t=1303927047


Sorry about not having any good pics of the finished neck, I'll get some tomorrow.
Carved the belly and leg contours too
http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/...pg?t=1303927047
http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/...pg?t=1303927047

Also done today, routed most of a roundover and the control cavity. Pics come tomorrow
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Old 04-30-2011, 10:14 AM   #34
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Old 04-30-2011, 10:29 AM   #35
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Damn this so nice. The grain on the heel area looks awesome. My browser keeps dieing on this page though and i can't see the last couple of pics. Keep up the great work, i can't wait to see the end result.
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Old 04-30-2011, 08:02 PM   #36
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Man, this is looking great!
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Old 05-01-2011, 04:22 PM   #37
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that thing looks smooth. i love this thread! you've got so many pictures that i now have more of an idea what i takes to make a guitar by myself. i've seen many thread if builds but none of them show it the way yours does. sincerely, thank you!
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Old 05-02-2011, 01:43 PM   #38
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^ Thats the nicest thing you could of said
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Old 05-02-2011, 08:15 PM   #39
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Dope ass dude, that neck looks sexy.
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Old 11-16-2012, 04:33 PM   #40
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Alright, I know this has been over a year since I last posted in here (and finished the guitar) and that this is a massive necrobump, but I forgot to post the rest of the photo's until yesterday and I thought I better do that before I come out of hibernation for another build.
So, a year and a half after it was finished, the rest of my explorer:

I pick up just where I let off, with the bridge. These next couple of photos are blurry, sorry about that, my camera wouldn't focus. The problem I had is that hipshot had send the bridge with the wrong type of screws, and the heads stuck out and messed up the bridge saddles. I emailed them and they basically told me to go down the shop and buy some new one, which was shitty of them seeing as they mucked up and the thing wasn't cheap to begin with. Alas.



Lovely pic of that clamp. Thanks, camera. Anyway, you can see how the saddle tilts to the side from where the hipshot screw gets underneath it.



String holes drilled. Just put the bridge on and drilled from there, no template needed



Shiny fretboard pics. I sanded up to 400 and then went over it with some wire wool. These are after a few coats of tru-oil, to protect the ash dots.





Fretting time. Started with just the hammer but I found that that dented the frets a bit much, so I found a bit of some dense hardwood and hit that instead. It worked pretty well.




My end nipping plier things. Just got a normal set of these and ground the face flat like stewmac's ones. They worked perfectly and I have no idea why anyone buys the ones from stewmac.
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