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View Poll Results: "Hello Krusty Krab?" "No this is PATRIOTISM"
1 - I've already started the revolution 32 13.73%
2 18 7.73%
3 - I write demeaning stuff about it on the Internet 37 15.88%
4 19 8.15%
5 - It's k, bro 38 16.31%
6 - It's better than k, bro 29 12.45%
7 33 14.16%
8 - I'd die to protect it and the people that live in it 20 8.58%
9 2 0.86%
10 - My country is perfect and I don't want it to ever change 5 2.15%
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Old 09-13-2011, 04:22 AM   #21
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Don't know which country you're talkin about, but that certainly applies to Australia.

I probably shouldn't start talking about refugees though, cos I won't stfu for an hour or so


He lives in the USA I believe
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Old 09-13-2011, 04:23 AM   #22
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Vlams belang is a bunch of shit


Vlaams Belang is almost history. Good riddance.

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Long live Valonia.


If you like it that much, you could ask your government to pay up €2500 per capita each year to support them while they spit on you.

Do not have an opinion about things you know nothing about.
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Old 09-13-2011, 04:26 AM   #23
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Vlaams Belang is almost history. Good riddance.



If you like it that much, you could ask your government to pay up €2500 per capita each year to support them while they spit on you.

Do not have an opinion about things you know nothing about.




I'm not even Belgian. A friend of mine is, and he's from Valonia.

And he he says such things. I have no idea about Belgium really. I just liked Leopold's expeditions in Kongo.
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Old 09-13-2011, 04:28 AM   #24
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I hate a lot of other countries, does that count?
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Old 09-13-2011, 04:31 AM   #25
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i agree, generally patriotism seems to equal "i love amurica, fuk them towelheads, amurica is the best country int eh planet, murica, murica..." et cetera.




feeling pride for a body of land just because you live on that body of land makes no sense to me whatsoever.





edit: just using stereotypical american patriots as an example here, europeans do the the same thing(more or less).


I feel pride for New Zealanders over the actual body of land itself though. I love New Zealanders, and the actual bodies of land that New Zealand is made up of looks sexy as hell. I guess I'm proud of the people and government not the land, so for lack of a better word I use Patriotism.
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Old 09-13-2011, 04:31 AM   #26
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Old 09-13-2011, 04:32 AM   #27
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I've been serving on active duty Air Force for 22 years, so there's my answer!
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Old 09-13-2011, 04:34 AM   #28
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To me, being patriotic is like growing up and still thinking your parents know everything.
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Old 09-13-2011, 04:35 AM   #29
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I'm not even Belgian. A friend of mine is, and he's from Valonia.


I'm aware of that. You eat krackebröd for breakfast.

Nothing against those people. It's their politicians that suck and is holding Flanders back to be one of the top regions of Europe together with the Netherlands, Germany, Scandinavia, ...
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Old 09-13-2011, 04:35 AM   #30
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I don't know if I can pledge allegiance to a flag of the United States. It's kind of fucked up to have to pledge to a flag... it's inanimate - it's idol worship all over again. But I do pledge allegiance to the land of the United States because it is a living, growing thing, and oh does it grow. Other than that, I like being here. We've lost our way over the last decade, but we'll make it back. We always do... bitches.

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Old 09-13-2011, 04:35 AM   #31
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Wow I can't believe how many of you don't know what patriotism is. It is not taking pride in the accomplishments of your country. It is devotion to your country. If you campaign for something you believe in because you think it will better your country, then you are a patriot, you angsty fucking teenagers.


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Old 09-13-2011, 04:37 AM   #32
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I've always wondered why people thought that. I just don't see any reason why I shouldn't be proud of New Zealand.


"Patriotism is your conviction that this country is superior to all other countries because you were born in it. "
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Old 09-13-2011, 04:38 AM   #33
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The idea of patriotism is repugnant.
with this said, i think we can close the thread.
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Old 09-13-2011, 04:40 AM   #34
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is it wrong to think, that everyone not mentioning the country they are from, are from the US? does that not speak for itself?
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Old 09-13-2011, 04:41 AM   #35
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whoa.. I just realized that in order to advance as a whole in society with the ideas of being utopian and perfect, that we cannot embrace patriotism because that directly creates favoritism and a mass of other things, in turn causing countries to turn on each other with people thinking that they're better than others when in reality, they're really not.
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Old 09-13-2011, 04:44 AM   #36
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I'm aware of that. You eat krackebröd for breakfast.

Nothing against those people. It's their politicians that suck and is holding Flanders back to be one of the top regions of Europe together with the Netherlands, Germany, Scandinavia, ...


But wasn't the case the other way around? Some decades ago Flanders sucked and Valonia prospered. Should they have left you then?
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Old 09-13-2011, 04:46 AM   #37
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whoa.. I just realized that in order to advance as a whole in society with the ideas of being utopian and perfect, that we cannot embrace patriotism because that directly creates favoritism and a mass of other things, in turn causing countries to turn on each other with people thinking that they're better than others when in reality, they're really not.


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...cuz I am too lol.



If that's your first realization, congrats. This is the 21st century. The nations/countries model doesn't work anymore. We've gotta grow up and face real integration and collaboration, or we're gonna chase our egotistic attitudes right down the bunny hole and fuck ourselves into collapse. That being said... Jah bless... America that is.
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Old 09-13-2011, 04:47 AM   #38
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...cuz I am too lol.



If that's your first realization, congrats. This is the 21st century. The nations/countries model doesn't work anymore. We've gotta grow up and face real integration and collaboration, or we're gonna chase our egotistic attitudes right down the bunny hole and fuck ourselves into collapse. That being said... Jah bless... America that is.


haha.. nah man, i wish i was though. you're absolutely right though, that's kinda what i was attempting or did convey. good luck to us as a species, right?
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Old 09-13-2011, 04:47 AM   #39
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is it wrong to think, that everyone not mentioning the country they are from, are from the US? does that not speak for itself?
yes it is. by the way not being patriotic doesnt mean that you dont care about the country, i live in spain and ive been camping since day 1 with 15-m and been to all the local assemblies(i think this is the correct term) i just found idiotic the idea that you should take any proud for being born in a certain country
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This is the 21st century. The nations/countries model doesn't work anymore. We've gotta grow up and face real integration and collaboration, or we're gonna chase our egotistic attitudes right down the bunny hole and **** ourselves into collapse. That being said... Jah bless
exactly my point, jah bless, irie

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Old 09-13-2011, 04:54 AM   #40
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I'm not a big fan of a lot of US politics, and I don't like some of our foreign policy decisions. That said, I quite enjoy living here.

I'd say I'm at about a 6 when it comes to being patriotic.
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