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Old 09-13-2011, 07:48 PM   #1
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So hi guys, this is my final thread for my FIRST build ever. Heres are some specs, based on a PRS SE EG (Discontinued) :

NECK:
Mahogany
Ebony Fingerboard
22 frets
White plastic offset dot at twelfth fret
White plastic sidedot
PRS styled headstock
Vintage keystone tuners
Black graphite nut
25 inches scale
Deep set neck

BODY:
Mahogany.
PRS Custom 24-shaped (Flat top, rounded edges, forearm cut and belly cut).
Top Routed (universal strat routing).
HSS setup.

HARDWARE:
Black bell knobs with pointers
Pickguard 1 ply, black.
PRS Trem look-alike black hardtail bridge(now''reliced'').
Oval jack plate.
DiMarizio Cliplocks.

ELECTRONICS:
Bridge pickup: GFS Crunchy Pat, 14k.
Middle pickup: GFS Vintage Strat, 5.5k(South coil of ''neck'' pickup).
Neck pickup: GFS Vintage Strat, 5.7k(North coil of ''neck'' pickup).
Two volume control.
Tele import style 3 way switch.
1 DPDT On/on killswitch.

FINISH
Scarlet smokeburst
Gloss body and head, satin neck

DIARY:
Post 51:Body cutted and whatnot
Post 55:Belly cut done
Post 56:Forearm cut and semi-final shaping done.
Post 60:Filled some scratch and done the scoop on the lower horn.
Post 69:Received electronics and some hardware from GuitarFetish.com.
Post 71:Most of the wiring done.
Post 77:More wiring done!
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Old 09-15-2011, 07:48 AM   #2
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I really need information. The piece of wood have now is one inch and half thick. Since its going to be routed like a strat, universal pickup cavity, trem cavity, control cavity, what are the depts of each? I dont want to rout the trem cavity, and BAM hey i have a see trough guitar!
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Old 09-15-2011, 09:20 AM   #3
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Your trem cavity for the springs doesn't have to be very deep - that being said, you could be cutting it close with your wood only being 1 1/2" thick. I dont have any materials on me (I'm in class) but both trem guitars I've built have been 1 3/4" thick or more where the trem sits.

You just have to be careful is all - your pickups (if they're single coil) will sit partially out the top of the pickguard, thus not needing as deep of a rout - your humbucker on the other hand, could throw a wrench in things. My Dimarzio's are like... half the depth of a cheaper set of humbuckers I've got, which dont fit in any of my current guitars.

Do you happen to have a strat body to take a part and grab measurements off of?
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Old 09-15-2011, 09:28 AM   #4
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No, the only electric I have around is a Schcter omen 6....
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Old 09-15-2011, 06:24 PM   #5
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I know, another bump, but all i need really is the minimal dept for the pickups and the trem....
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Old 09-15-2011, 08:32 PM   #6
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Google it bro. Look up the dimensions for the pickup, leave a half or quarter inch... rest is your trem cavity. See if it sounds reasonable... if it is, route. If it's not, you've gotta rethink your design. 1.5" is cutting it a little slim for a trem... thats about all I can say, based off my own personal experience.
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Old 09-16-2011, 03:49 AM   #7
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i believe your standard trem cavity is 1/2" - 5/8" deep. you can get away with a 1/2"
a standard strat body is i think likee 1.5" thick.
this hohner strat copy is 1.5", and the trem route is .5"
half its trem route goes all the way through to the pickups (dont ask why). theres a good amount of space between the pickup and trem springs. your pickups will be up out of the body some. youll be fine

the hohner is a "see through" guitar. its only a small square you can see through. and my current build is also "see through". no biggie.
id guess route the pup area like .75" deep, then the control area 1" or so. a pickup is only about .75" tall, and it will be up out of the body some
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Old 09-16-2011, 07:52 AM   #8
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Thanks alot guys!!!I promise pictures within two weeks. its just that a frien let me use his power tools, so i got to go to his place to do the thing.

EDIT: Im going with a fixed bridge now (less trouble).
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Old 09-29-2011, 11:24 PM   #9
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Guys, ireally need your help. I want to get done with woodworking and finising ASAP, and to have a playable instrument in two or three months. Electronics and PG can wait, but now i need a store from where i can have a sloted nut, a fixed strat style bridge and fretwire. As cheap as possible, obviously, so... Not stewmac, please!
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dont get a slotted nut off ebay. got mine, was too short, heaven forbid i slot it more than it was already
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Old 09-30-2011, 12:15 PM   #11
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Try allparts.com, they have a good selection of stuff for cheaper than stewmac. If not, google.
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Old 09-30-2011, 01:08 PM   #12
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I tried all parts, but hell their fretwore is expensive... Like twice stewmac :O
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Old 10-19-2011, 09:30 PM   #13
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A nice sketch i did of what it sould look like in the end.
First of all, its going to be set neck, because the neck will be simplier to shape. Second, the bridge and tuners will be Gotoh, from stewmac. Fixed bridge, and vitage keystone tuners. I'll get fretwire on the same order.

Few questions:
1: do you guys think i should put a flame maple veneer?
2: i dont know what pups to put in this guitar. i need a high output bridge humbucker, and the two singlcoils need to be hum canceling togheter, with great cleans. as cheap as possible too... any idea? i though about GFS.
3:What finish? i really dont know.
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Old 10-19-2011, 09:35 PM   #14
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That's a pretty good sketch, not going to lie.

1. Yes
2. Assuming you don't want to spend a lot of money, GFS is a pretty good idea.
3. Charcoal burst.
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Do you know any place to get nice bookmatched venner? and how do i bend the arm rest?
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I don't know where to get it, but I'm sure google could give you something real quick.

And heat (steam) makes wood flexible, though I've seen it done by just adding weight on top when gluing on the veneer.
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Well thnks dude, does anybody have some names in mind for the pickups, not just the brand?

And what about the jack? Strat style lr LP style?
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Old 10-19-2011, 10:55 PM   #18
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strat style, but on the side of the guitar.
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Old 10-19-2011, 11:21 PM   #19
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Dude, u serious?


Not a bad idea.. Not at all. Have the best of both worlds. Thts interesting, ill look give it a try
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^ Its actually the best way. The cable comes out angled straight towards the strap.
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Should i route the universal pup cavity first or the neck pocket first?
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I don't think it matters if you do them both perfectly, but I would definitely do Neck Pocket first.
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I don't know where to get it, but I'm sure google could give you something real quick.

And heat (steam) makes wood flexible, though I've seen it done by just adding weight on top when gluing on the veneer.


You'd have to be careful though, wood will only bend to a certain degree as a sheet before it cracks... the graduation into the arm rest angle would have to be fairly soft... a sharp change in angle may crack the veneer sheet.
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It was done on a JEM style body, so standard Ibanez RG arm contour.
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I'v choosen the finish:The whole body will be dyed red, with a black burst on the top and a little surprise on the back..... And good news, i'm officialy statring to cut and route this weekend.
Also, im hesitating for the killswitch. I dont know what to choose between a slide switch, or a mini toggle... What are the advantage disadvantage of each?
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I'v choosen the finish:The whole body will be dyed red, with a black burst on the top and a little surprise on the back..... And good news, i'm officialy statring to cut and route this weekend.
Also, im hesitating for the killswitch. I dont know what to choose between a slide switch, or a mini toggle... What are the advantage disadvantage of each?

Depends on your intent for use.

Is it going to be a kill switch to mute you out when you're not playing or is it for momentary use much like Buckethead or Tom Morello would use it for?
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To mute wn im not playing, without having to roll the volume knob. I know, im lazy.
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Then a toggle will work much better, mini ones will keep out of the way. A momentary one will be a nuisance because you'll have to hold it down to cut your signal.
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I ddnt meat a momentary one, i meant a slide switch like on the jagars. Would this work to?
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If I route the neck pocket in such way , would it be strong enough? I dont know if i ll go bolt in or set. What would be the best?
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Yeah, actually im having some problems with thw guy im supose to meet for all the powertool work. So im thinkign ordering the electronics and starting with the pickguard.
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I dont know what to do with the bridge. Either black or chrome? Also, the jack will be top mounted, on the pickguard for simplcity.

I know these are strats, its just to give an idea of the color scheme. The black one fits better, but i have hard times justifiying the extra 11$ :/. Anyway, wich looks better GB&C?

About the PG, what can i use? Just a sheet of black plastic from hardware store? I'm not looking into multi colored ply thing, singleply is fine. And do i need a router for the pickup holes?
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I'm officially going to work on the pckguard first, because its going to b cheaper to order and so ill be able to start sooner. I'm curretly in a really fuc king boring school project, but it'll get done as soon as i possibly can.

BTW, thnks for the input. Black it'll be!!
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Old 11-17-2011, 03:17 PM   #38
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Thansk for the link. I cheked them out, but i'm in canada :S The plan now is to go with GFS, and i'll be ordering my pups at the same time as all the elctronics. Thansk GFS, i can have an overwound strat set and a hot humbucker for less then 40 bucks :P
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