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Old 09-21-2011, 04:36 PM   #81
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Led Zeppelin II is proto prog?
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Old 09-21-2011, 04:38 PM   #82
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Led Zeppelin II is proto prog?

Reading the proto prog, I'm confused what Prog even is anymore.

But regardless, this list was really unhelpful as I listen to most of these bands already. There's a few I could try out, but that's about it. But still, the albums are good choices.
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Old 09-21-2011, 04:44 PM   #83
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Led Zeppelin (as well as Hendrix and Beatles) each laid different foundations that progressive bands built upon.

As for Rome and Illum, I'll touch up the list as soon as I have access to a comp again. I would like to keep the best of as one album per band though, I wanted to put Larks Tongues there but opted for Red because it seems to be more universally appreciated amongst prog guys. I apologize for forgetting the Rush and DCD, which is why I asked for help with the list. Appreciate it guys
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Old 09-21-2011, 04:47 PM   #84
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Led Zeppelin (as well as Hendrix and Beatles) each laid different foundations that progressive bands built upon.

Sabbath too? I mean I guess I could see that with songs like Black Sabbath, War Pigs, Rat Salad, and a few others... But...
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Old 09-21-2011, 04:53 PM   #85
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Planet Caravan? War Pigs? NIB?

they had an obvious influence on the formation of metal, but compare Crimson's and Tull's heavier moments , along with the power chord riffing all over Larks' instrumental pieces, the folk and blues excursions, the list goes on.
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Old 09-21-2011, 04:59 PM   #86
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Yeah that proto prog list seems kinda weird and pointless. Feels like maybe it'd be more helpful to turn it into a section for psychedelic rock that came before prog, since you already have Beatles and Hendrix in there. Doors' first two would definitely fit, as well as Cream and Pink Floyd's debut
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Old 09-21-2011, 05:20 PM   #87
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Are Marillion considered Neo-Prog? Granted, I have no idea what they're doing now or how their later albums sounded like.

Also, anyone has any suggestions for something like Gordian Knot? I might do a little track per track write up for Emergent for this thread if I find the time.
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Old 09-21-2011, 05:24 PM   #88
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Old 09-21-2011, 05:51 PM   #89
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the most important being, where the fuck is Dead Can Dance's Within the Realm of a Dying Sun ? That's by far my favorite and I know for a couple others as well (Sam I know for one).


It's by far my favourite as well.
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Old 09-21-2011, 07:30 PM   #90
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0-0-0-13-0-0-0-0-13 or something like that alalalala but It;s so heavy and off time and awesome and you could not f**k anyone to it.


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I can dig Jethro Tull, but capes are totally for vampires.
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Old 09-21-2011, 07:35 PM   #92
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I want to try that while playing the opening riff to "Tempting Time".

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Thanks for the list. I've been meaning to listen to more older prog stuff, so I'll begin exploring it a bit more after my post-rock/metal/shoegaze faze is over.
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Old 09-21-2011, 08:22 PM   #95
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I feel some of Alice Cooper's albums should be added... at least as "further listening" or something. I know he's not generally considered as "prog rock" & more as a shock rocker, but I feel that's based more on appearance than anything. He does a lot of concept albums, & Welcome To My Nightmare is one of the best albums of the era... and that album is pretty progressive. Just a thought.
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uuh wat.

how is cooper prog?
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uuh wat.

how is cooper prog?


This.
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Old 09-21-2011, 08:58 PM   #98
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uuh wat.

how is cooper prog?


Ask yourself that same question but change it to Pink Floyd.






I kid, but I don't know much of Alice cooper but from what I remember he just makes conceptual music that sticks to basic formulas and takes cues from Horror Movies and stuff?
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He's not for the most part. but Welcome To my Nightmare isn't just a standard rock album from the 70's. It has a whole theme & concept to the record & while it doesn't come off as an obvious choice, i feel many prog fan would find the album highly enjoyable if they sat & listened to it. i know I do. Seriously, if you've never listened to the whole album, or even if it's been a long time, I highly recommend it. I'd go as far to say that if you can consider the Doors as prog-rock related, you can sure as hell count WTMN; it's 10x more prog than anything the Doors ever did.

You don't have to add it to the list, won't hurt my feelings, but it's a loss for the listeners. To be clear, I wouldn't classify any other AC record as prog-related, but I feel this one can fit in without feeling too out of place.

EDIT: Let me modify my original statement & say that it should be added to Starting Out section of the 1st post.

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Old 09-21-2011, 09:14 PM   #100
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I'm sorry, but you're just objectively wrong.
Theme and concept has nothing to do with progressive music, it' just neat.
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