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Old 11-10-2011, 02:39 PM   #1
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Blackstar ht-50

Has anyone had any experiences with these? I'm hopefully going to go and try one out maybe at the weekend.

I'm looking for an amp to be able to play pop-punk on (please don't comment on my musical taste, that not what I'm after.) I'm looking for that sort of american pop punk tone. Something like a mesa boogie rectifier (although I can't get one of those obviously for the price)

I've heard people say that with the ISF control on the Blackstar's you can get it pretty close to a rectifier type sound!

Also, for pop punk would you reccomend an open back or closed back cabinet? I'm thinking closed back, but not really sure?

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Old 11-10-2011, 03:57 PM   #2
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Surely someone knows some stuff about this amp?
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Old 11-10-2011, 04:32 PM   #3
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I've got the HT20 combo, and I'd say it's pretty versatile. I guess it sounds pretty good with distortion, but don't expect a recto sound. Also, the ISF isn't just as good as they'd make out.
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Old 11-10-2011, 04:44 PM   #4
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Yea, Not going to sound like a recto. What's your budget? I'm sure you could find a nicer amp used
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Old 11-10-2011, 06:42 PM   #5
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I guess around 800ish would be my budget, including a cab.
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Old 11-10-2011, 09:26 PM   #6
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Old 11-10-2011, 10:00 PM   #7
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800....?

Go second hand. You could get a tremoverb combo for that money.
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Old 11-11-2011, 12:06 PM   #8
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800....?

Go second hand. You could get a tremoverb combo for that money.

My plan was to go 2nd hand anyway. Just hard to find Blackstar's 2nd hand. Why do people not rate them on here?
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Old 11-11-2011, 12:11 PM   #9
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BlackStar HT50 or Mesa Tremoverb.....

Why would you even consider the HT if you want Mesa tones...?
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Old 11-11-2011, 12:12 PM   #10
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Where the hell can you pick up a tremoverb for 800?
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Old 11-11-2011, 12:16 PM   #11
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The combos go for that much on eBay. Just a case of looking hard and patiently.
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Old 11-11-2011, 01:26 PM   #12
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Blackstar ht series have a hybrid preamp circuit so its basically a distortion pedal with a poweramp as far as tube tone goes..

If half the hipsters that love blackstars knew that they'd hate them...
They aren't all tube and for 800 you can do much much better.
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Old 11-11-2011, 01:56 PM   #13
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Ahhh, I didn't know that. So thanks! Saved my ass :P

Thoughts on a JCM900/JCM2000 for pop-punk?
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Old 11-11-2011, 02:13 PM   #14
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jcm2000 - a dsl would definetely work well for pop punk know a few pop punk guys that use those.
JCM900 - dual reverbs, nah unless you're going for a raw punk sound these are similar to the blackstars in that they have hybrid distortion circuits so arent all tube distortion wise.
JCM 900 SL-Xsare a bit gainier so maybe plus they are all tube.
Jet city amps would be worth checking out. I'm sure they'll do pop punk.. maybe not a mesa recto sound but i'm sure they're chunky enough and do they sound really nice. ALSO they are really cheap on ebay ATM (last time i checked) you are looking for 299 quid for the 50 watt head and 399 for the 100 watt head..
This would give a great budget for a cab such as..
http://www.guitarguitar.co.uk/preow...ck=px-G15ES2192

800 can get a very nice setup if you shop around. Search around for clips of the jet city heads on youtube if you want a rough idea but i think they'd do pop punk.

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Old 11-11-2011, 02:18 PM   #15
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Wow, they are that cheap on ebay?
I've seen the Jet City amps before and been impressed, just not sure how well it will handle pop punk. May go and try one out tomorrow.

What about the Jet City cabs are they any good? I wouldn't mind an orange like the one you posted but I'm preferably after a 212 really as I don't think a 412 will fit in my car :P. I did own a Marshall 1936v when I had my orange head and was impressed with that... but how much better are they than the Jet City cabs?
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Old 11-11-2011, 02:22 PM   #16
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Yes, the distributor source distribution is blowing out some excess warehouse stock so they are brand new

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Jet-City-...#ht_1257wt_1263

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Jet-City-...#ht_1191wt_1263

I think they will do pop punk honestly. I know a guy in a pop punk band that was thinking of getting one but ended up getting a dsl because he got a real good deal from someone (head and 1960 cab for 500)

Jet city cabs will be alright i'll imagine but you can get better ones within your budget if you where to go with the head.
A 2x12 will be fine i'd look into orange again. The marshall one you had is good as well...
Theres also custom makers like zilla on ebay etc
All nice cabs plenty of options for 2x12.

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Old 11-11-2011, 02:25 PM   #17
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Wow, will definitely try one tomorrow just to see if it can handle what I want!
Think I will just go for 50watts as I don't really need loads of headroom for cleans. Will try out this and a jcm2000 for comparison!

Thanks a lot man
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Old 11-11-2011, 08:42 PM   #18
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I like the Blackstar amps. I'm gonna get the HT-20 Watt Head with a 4X8 Cab.
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Old 01-13-2013, 04:49 PM   #19
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i gotta post somethin about the blackstar ht-50, before i bought it i barely found anything about it.

couple things, make sure you have a good pick-up and guitar set up. play with your pick-up height also, should do this anyway but it really made a massive difference with my view of this amp.

i go back and for america and wales, dual citizenship, in america i have a dual rectifier, marshall jcm2000 dsl and just sold my bogner alchemist. i have extensive playing time on jcm 800's dual and single channel previously, i do my own valve swaps/biasing and mods.
i only say this, to show that i am a complete tone douchebag/snob lol, but i know my stuff.

at first the amp was giving me a great clean channel, but the overdrive channel was giving me the gain i wanted, but there wasn't the articulation. the punch in your face feeling when you hit a powerchord. still wanted to keep the amp, it was still good and i figured a tube swap would sort it out. some tung sols, apparently these things like tung sols.

i took a step back from my situation, setup the guitar differently, adjusting everything, also to the liberty of setting up my action properly with the floyd rose. now... i got allot of the articulation back, very angry jcm800 hot rod crunch on the overdrive channel, its fantastic, the harmonic complexity and the bite is fantastic. i thoroughly recommend this amp, i love good metal, not into wall of incoherent fuzz death metal, but pinch harmonics slap you in the face with this thing, it can do hard rock, metal, punk, the cleans are fantastic too... i mean most stuff.... id like to say easily but like i said you got to alter your setup a bit...

im really glad a company is offering an amp that'll do this that doesn't cost your left nut....
if anything the 'isf' and the tonal variety actually makes it really hard to just jump on it and get 'your tone' straight away, it takes a while, but you can get it.

this thing is awesome value for money..

can't wait to do a tube swap, despite the fact blackstar are really secretive about bias info ad stuff, but you can find it.

and i believe the only thing solid state is the phase inverter, many amps have done that before, people need to lighten up, i love this amp allready, don't know about selling the dual rec, but honestly, im trying to find a reason to keep the marshall, and its hard... ill be takin it back to america whenever i go back

gives any head under 1200 a run thats for sure..

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Old 01-13-2013, 05:03 PM   #20
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been trying to think of a good audio example, with my esp and high output pick-ups, I pull of almost exact early dio/vivian campbell moddified marshall tone.

listen to rainbow in the dark, like i said the crunch/bite/harmonic complexity, but you can still hear each note and the pinch harmonics, its a very satisfying amp to drive and play louder.

it has just the right kind of natural tube compression too, sustains well, finger tapping is a little easier and sound allot nicer when the notes want to sustain naturally.

this amp will make you want to play more

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