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Old 09-27-2014, 12:56 PM   #1
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Which amp for shoegaze?

I am doing an indie/shoegaze project and need an amp that is up to the job. I have £300 to spend. 2nd hand amps are fine.
I would just have the amp set clean then use pedals when required.
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I would like a tone like the band yuck. A sound like in their songs Get away or Rebirth.

I was looking at a vox ac30vr or a marshall ma100c.
Does anyone have any experience with these amps or could recommend something in my price range?
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Old 09-27-2014, 01:06 PM   #2
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I was looking at a vox ac30vr or a marshall ma100c.
Does anyone have any experience with these amps
Yeah.
Don't get any of them.

I'd say a used AC15c1 could do the job.
Not the vr.

Or you could just skip the guitar amp and get a power amp + a cab...
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Old 09-27-2014, 05:44 PM   #3
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What is the benefits of the ac15? Yeah I would get a head and cab but it's the same situation that I wouldn't know what to get that would be good for shoegaze in my budget
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What is the benefits of the ac15?
The tube AC15 sounds better than the hybrid AC30.
Also that band sounded like it was using some fairly distorted british style amp mixed with the clean signal mixed with a signal distorted and not passed through a guitar cab.
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Yeah I would get a head and cab
No, not a guitar amp head.
A power amp.

Like the Carvin TS100 and the Yamaha P2500S.
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Old 09-27-2014, 06:33 PM   #5
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Yeah I thought a British sounding amp would be good. I considered a tiny terror head with a cab but was not sure if it could achieve the sound needed. It would need to be loud enough to practice with a band not mic'd up. Then possibly used at gigs most likely mic'd up.

Sorry, I never read it properly! I will have a look at them
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Old 09-28-2014, 10:13 PM   #6
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Old 09-28-2014, 11:58 PM   #7
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It would need to be loud enough to practice with a band not mic'd up.


For that you would really need something that's at least 100 watts, otherwise you won't be able to get an actual clean tone at rehearsal volume. Get an used Roland JC120.
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If ever there was a case for a Pod and a powered wedge, shoegaze would be it.
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Old 09-29-2014, 04:10 AM   #9
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Old 09-29-2014, 07:55 AM   #10
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For that you would really need something that's at least 100 watts, otherwise you won't be able to get an actual clean tone at rehearsal volume.
Please stop spreading this kinda disinformation.

Guitar amps power ratings are made up, and even if they weren't, power would be one among different factors determining the max clean output volume of a setup.

Or, if TL;DR, please stfu.
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If ever there was a case for a Pod and a powered wedge, shoegaze would be it.
This would work good as well, yes, if you want convenience that's what you wanna get TS.

Convenience as in something you can play at night with headphones, something with a shit ton of nice sounding fx and routing possibility, something relatively light and something easily expandable and easy to integrate in a much bigger setup.
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The jc120 looks good! It's slightly over my budget but I could probably stretch to buy one of them. Am I correct in thinking that they are similar to the fender twin reverb?
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Old 09-29-2014, 09:56 AM   #12
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I love my Ampeg GVT52-112 for shoegaze stuff, maybe give that a look.


I'm also a fan of Yuck, great band. But I kinda missed Daniel's vocals on the last album. Not that the new lead singer doesn't do a great job, but it just isn't the same.

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Am I correct in thinking that they are similar to the fender twin reverb?

Not at all. It's a completely different beast, it definitely doesn't sound like a Twin Reverb.
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Ampeg is another shoegaze favourite. Although I really don't think it matters too much, you just need a loud clean amp and pedals right?? Therefore a twin reverb would be great but perhaps over budget.. JC-120's can be found used for below $500USD regularly. Although nowhere near as loud as a twin reverb.
Linkerman - big fan of yuck here too! And I agree, the vocals were a bit lacking. 'Somewhere' is a good song from the new album IMO. They are the most depressed looking band live.
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I think the gvt52 is harder to come by now! Not sure if they are still making them and I haven't seen any on ebay.
Yeah I know what you mean! They are still really good but it just isn't the same. Saying that operation was one of my favourite songs from the first album and it was max singing on that!
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Here in the UK I've seen the jc120 and fender twin reverb go for about the same price 2nd hand occasionally
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If a Twin and JC120 are the same price, buy the Twin. It's a no-brainer if you ask me.
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Please stop spreading this kinda disinformation.

Guitar amps power ratings are made up, and even if they weren't, power would be one among different factors determining the max clean output volume of a setup.

Or, if TL;DR, please stfu.


Yeah they are made up to a certain degree, and yes the actual clean headroom depends on how the tubes were biased etc. But it usually ends up around the ballpark of the "claimed" power rating. Of course there's the speaker sensitivity thing coming into play as well, but the power rating is still a quick and easy indication. It's still pretty safe to say the JC120 would stay clean at a louder volume than the AC15 you recommended. A 15 watt amp is not going to stay clean at the volume level needed for an unmic'd rehearsal with real drums.

BTW it seemed like you are too drunk with your 3rd hand forum knowledges.
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Hot Rod Deluxe or DeVille, Twin, Peavey Vintage 30 .

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If I was playing shoegaze (which isn't likely) I would definitely go the Pod type thing. Shoegaze guys end up with huge pedalboards if they don't go MFX. You never know what sort of stage you may end up on. That's why I bought a GT-100, my pedalboard was getting in everybody's way when I was playing covers.
I have an RM100 so amp modelling (shutup greg) wasn't needed but unless you already had a trick amp like mine, then a HD500X and a wedge would be the go - especially for shoegaze. You can have all your different effects settings ready to go without screwing around. Hit a button and everything changes.
As you aren't really needing anything much more than a clean amp even using pedals, a HD500 is exactly the right tool for the job. Add a nice wedge to the equation and you've got a pro sounding shoegaze rig.
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If I was playing shoegaze (which isn't likely) I would definitely go the Pod type thing. Shoegaze guys end up with huge pedalboards if they don't go MFX. You never know what sort of stage you may end up on. That's why I bought a GT-100, my pedalboard was getting in everybody's way when I was playing covers.
I have an RM100 so amp modelling (shutup greg) wasn't needed but unless you already had a trick amp like mine, then a HD500X and a wedge would be the go - especially for shoegaze. You can have all your different effects settings ready to go without screwing around. Hit a button and everything changes.
As you aren't really needing anything much more than a clean amp even using pedals, a HD500 is exactly the right tool for the job. Add a nice wedge to the equation and you've got a pro sounding shoegaze rig.

You're not cool in shoegaze world unless you have a big ugly mess of rejected pedals from the 90's on your pedalboard.
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