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Old 02-27-2015, 06:48 PM   #1
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First rig for indie rock?

Hey, I'm a guitar player with a fairly intermediate skill set, I was wondering what would you suggest as a good first rig for indie rock in the same vein as bands like Catfish and the Bottlemen, The Crookes, The Orwells and Twin Peaks. I'm pretty flexible on the price range but would like to stay under $1500. Any help you can give would be great, Thanks.
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Old 02-27-2015, 10:46 PM   #2
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Old 02-27-2015, 11:45 PM   #3
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What guitar(s) are you using?

Currently, I have a Epiphone Special-I with Worn Cherry finish, additionally I have a Fender Mustang 1 V2 amp.
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Old 02-27-2015, 11:57 PM   #4
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I'd put some of that money towards a new guitar as well, unless you really like your current one. A Vox AC30 and a Fender Stratocaster or Telecaster would be my go-to for this sort of sound, plus maybe a tube screamer or fuzz pedal. All of which can be found on the used market quite frequently for good prices!

Do you like using effects? Any particular kinds?
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Old 02-28-2015, 12:11 AM   #5
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I'd put some of that money towards a new guitar as well, unless you really like your current one. A Vox AC30 and a Fender Stratocaster or Telecaster would be my go-to for this sort of sound, plus maybe a tube screamer or fuzz pedal. All of which can be found on the used market quite frequently for good prices!

Do you like using effects? Any particular kinds?

Thank you for the help so far, I don't have any pedals set up now, but I do enjoy distortion pedals.
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Old 02-28-2015, 12:43 AM   #6
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$600-800 each on a guitar and amp, with whatever leftover going into pedals will set you up nicely. Just as a for example, I did a search on Vox amps and Reverend guitars:

https://reverb.com/brand/vox?catego...rt=price%7Cdesc

https://reverb.com/marketplace/elec...rt=price%7Cdesc

http://www.ebay.com/sch/Electric-/3...52DHanded&rt=nc
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$600-800 each on a guitar and amp, with whatever leftover going into pedals will set you up nicely. Just as a for example, I did a search on Vox amps and Reverend guitars:

https://reverb.com/brand/vox?catego...rt=price%7Cdesc

https://reverb.com/marketplace/elec...rt=price%7Cdesc

http://www.ebay.com/sch/Electric-/3...52DHanded&rt=nc

Thank you very much, I appreciate it. I was also wondering, what pedals (preferably distortion) Should I get started with?
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Wow...tough to say.

To my ear, the bands you're talking about don't use a lot of distortion. My instincts say that you can use almost any well-made distortion pedal to mimic their results.

The thing is, there's a world of pedals out there, and personally, I've been trending towards the boutique. The pedals I like tend to be well made, but may be overpriced for what they deliver, so take my advice with a grain of salt! . I'll present some I like, but others will probably suggest less expensive options.

Visual Sound makes good pedals. I have their Jekyll & Hyde Overdrive/Distortion pedal- here's a used one at a good price.
https://reverb.com/item/241289-visu...CFYNAaQoden4AQQ

The Distortion side is available separately as the very affordable Son of Hyde.
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/det...&hst_v=73933207

Another OD/Dist pedal I own is the Red Witch Famulus, but they're pricey- here's a used one, though.
https://reverb.com/item/100149-red-witch-famulus-white
(Red Witch also makes a solo distortion pedal that is under $120.)

Catalinbread makes a few- the Sabra Cadrabra, the Dirty Little Secret, etc.- but I think the Teaser Stallion might be more to your liking.
https://reverb.com/item/214856-cata...lion-distortion

The Dr. No Drive-O-Matic recently popped up on my radar. I can't vouch for it personally, but I like what I've heard so far.
https://reverb.com/item/120715-dr-n...s-drive-o-matic

The Way Huge Fat Sandwich is popular, and worthy of consideration.
https://reverb.com/item/4685-way-hu...d-free-shipping
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Old 02-28-2015, 11:18 AM   #9
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Tele (maybe a Carbonita? or a thinline) into a Soul Food or any light OD and an AC15/AC30 will get you there.
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Old 02-28-2015, 11:32 AM   #10
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Wow...tough to say.

To my ear, the bands you're talking about don't use a lot of distortion. My instincts say that you can use almost any well-made distortion pedal to mimic their results.

The thing is, there's a world of pedals out there, and personally, I've been trending towards the boutique. The pedals I like tend to be well made, but may be overpriced for what they deliver, so take my advice with a grain of salt! . I'll present some I like, but others will probably suggest less expensive options.

Visual Sound makes good pedals. I have their Jekyll & Hyde Overdrive/Distortion pedal- here's a used one at a good price.
https://reverb.com/item/241289-visu...CFYNAaQoden4AQQ

The Distortion side is available separately as the very affordable Son of Hyde.
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/det...&hst_v=73933207

Another OD/Dist pedal I own is the Red Witch Famulus, but they're pricey- here's a used one, though.
https://reverb.com/item/100149-red-witch-famulus-white
(Red Witch also makes a solo distortion pedal that is under $120.)

Catalinbread makes a few- the Sabra Cadrabra, the Dirty Little Secret, etc.- but I think the Teaser Stallion might be more to your liking.
https://reverb.com/item/214856-cata...lion-distortion

The Dr. No Drive-O-Matic recently popped up on my radar. I can't vouch for it personally, but I like what I've heard so far.
https://reverb.com/item/120715-dr-n...s-drive-o-matic

The Way Huge Fat Sandwich is popular, and worthy of consideration.
https://reverb.com/item/4685-way-hu...d-free-shipping

Thank you both for the help, I'll check them out!
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Old 02-28-2015, 01:28 PM   #11
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pedals boards are expensive. do you have one at all?

your in a real bind if you need everything scratch. i may suggest a 700, 500, 300 mix of amp guitar and pedals. if you are a handy man build the board yourself out of wood and use a 1 spot power supply.

pedals probably make more of an impact on your tone than guitar, but if you dont have an intrument you need one you like to play. thats hard. i would say if you have a great guitar already, invest more in pedals. no guitar, well....get yourself a guitar. i mean can you race cars without a car?

your amp is most important here. it is the rock and foundation. if you are going to be in a band it needs to be quality and sound quality.

if you have existing pedals and already have an epihpone guitar as a backup that you like, and perhaps only need to make a few tweaks to your pedals....i would sy allow up to 1000 on the amp. maybe 500-800 on the amp and plus or minus some for a guitar. like 800 amp, 600 for guitar 100 pedals?

of the top of my head, something like an asian G&L fender style may work or a reverend guitar, also very nice. in that 600-800 range which is coming in a but higher but a good workable, gigable, high quality guitar.

carvin is a godo suggestion but generally they start at 800 for the set necks and thru necks. the bolt on strt styles can be had ness than 800. used market.
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He's talking about the G&L Tribute models, made in Indonesia with mostly the same parts as their USA-made guitars. A VERY good option, and they start around $500 used, maybe $800 new.

https://reverb.com/marketplace/elec...y=G%26L+tribute
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Old 02-28-2015, 02:45 PM   #13
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i'm gonna go with a slightly diffeent line of thought. for guitar agree that a strat or a tele would be good. for an amp i'd go with a Peavey Classic 30. that amp has really good cleans and you can use the drive channel to get those slightly overdriven sounds no pedals needed (although i'll always recommend an overdrive anyways). this leaves you some cash for perhaps a delay.
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Old 02-28-2015, 03:36 PM   #14
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I'd suggest one of the smaller Mesa amps, Mini Rectifier or Express 5:50, plenty of tonal options and versatility and a great sound.
Maybe Carvin V3 will cover most of the bases and offer 3 channels that are switchable.

On the used market Peavey JSX will also cover everything you want to throw at it. If you want slightly more garagey sound try the Valveking.
Traynor Blue is always a great choice, if you want something warmer and slightly more offbeat. Maybe one of the Orange tube amps used, also great, very distinct voice.
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Old 02-28-2015, 04:11 PM   #15
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that NOS Godin Triumph looks pretty cool. good recommendation and would give you a guitar not everyone has. definitely would do the trick.
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I've been looking at it- and similar ones- on eBay (and other sites) for a while now. Lot of guitar for not a big price tag. Here's Godin's page on it:

http://www.godinguitars.com/godinpresstriumph.htm

FWIW, the Triumph was somewhat replaced by the Radiator
http://www.godinguitars.com/godinradp.htm

and then the Empire.
http://www.richmondguitarscanada.com/empire.html

My fave of that set I posted, though, is actually the Belmont. The SD 59 and those 2 SD Lipsticks have a LOT of character in them. A surprisingly versatile axe- I want one to use for slide, FWIW.
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He's talking about the G&L Tribute models, made in Indonesia with mostly the same parts as their USA-made guitars. A VERY good option, and they start around $500 used, maybe $800 new.

https://reverb.com/marketplace/elec...y=G%26L+tribute

Actually the Tribute's start ~$300ish used which makes them a great deal. Musician's friend is always running a special on the G&L's it seems
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Really? That IS good if they've discounted the one you want.
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OP where are you generally located? We can check out your local Craigslist for good deals.
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