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Old 04-16-2014, 11:02 AM   #1
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Similar to JCM 800

Hey UG. So I decided I want my first real half stack to be a JCM800. Not really caring about the cab right now, probably just something with V30s.

Problem is I don't have a grand (USD) to drop on an amp and won't anywhere in the near future.

So your task is this: Recommend me an amp with that thick, warm, sludgey distortion tone the JCM 800 has for less money. I play just about anything that can be considered metal (which means nothing with a -core suffix lol). Don't care new or used, located in NY, but that won't matter considering this purchase probably won't happen until the end of the year. Just looking for recommendations.
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Old 04-16-2014, 11:26 AM   #2
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Old 04-16-2014, 11:53 AM   #3
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Laney AOR or Peavey VTM
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Old 04-16-2014, 12:14 PM   #4
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More of a hot-rodded vibe but Jet City JCA22H?
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Old 04-16-2014, 01:15 PM   #5
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JCM2000.

I just got one recently and its pretty good for 70s-modernish stuff. I think it could pull off the 800 tone.
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Old 04-16-2014, 01:18 PM   #6
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Loved my Peavey VTM. A lot more than the Laney AOR I had. They aren't easy to find though. Alternatively, if you're really on a budget... you can find Peavey Windsors cheap as sin.
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Old 04-16-2014, 01:38 PM   #7
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Randall RD20, 45 or 100 depending on how much volume and what features you want. I know some guys here really like the Krank 1980 as well for those sounds, but I've never played one.
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Old 04-16-2014, 01:46 PM   #8
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Old 04-16-2014, 01:48 PM   #9
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Thanks guys. I'll be looking into the Laney definitely, always like their amps. If an 800 comes up on my gear exchange I may have to jump on it though haha.
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Old 04-16-2014, 01:55 PM   #10
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A used JCM2000 DSL maybe? The green channel is close to JCM800 in voicing and you can get it way less than a grand. Its Marshall and sounds like one.

Peavey Windsor and I think Laney GH50 (I may mix this to some other model) are based on JCM800 but with their own twist.
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Old 04-16-2014, 07:57 PM   #11
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Be careful with AOR's. They are notorious for having dodgey tube sockets. Before buying it, punch it firmly on the top and if it makes a popping/cracking noise, walk away.
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Old 04-16-2014, 08:03 PM   #12
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Certainly wouldn't be exactly a JCM800, but I can get some pretty convincing tones of that style from my Carvin V3. They're pretty reasonably priced, both new and used. Could be something to look into.
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Old 04-16-2014, 08:04 PM   #13
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Everyone already said it, but it's still worth mentioning. Laney AOR

Also look around for a Peavey VTM. You can find em real cheap now and then. A guy is selling a VTM60 with a 4x12 on my local craigslist for $250. Very good for what it is, a few mods and it becomes great.

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Old 04-16-2014, 08:07 PM   #14
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I'd take a VTM over an AOR. The only people that should buy AOR's are those with the technical skills required to keep the working. They were made during a period where Laney QC was so bad that even Tony Iommi stopped using them.

A JCM2000 DSL made after 2003 is your best option IMO.
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I've never heard complaints about AOR reliability before to be honest, and I have quite a few friends that use them.
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Old 04-16-2014, 08:13 PM   #16
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They've either been lucky or somebody has already replaced the sockets before. Trust me, it's a real thing. AOR's have a really bad reputation for reliability. Laneys from that period were built very poorly, cost cutting everywhere.
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I'd take a VTM over an AOR. The only people that should buy AOR's are those with the technical skills required to keep the working. They were made during a period where Laney QC was so bad that even Tony Iommi stopped using them.

A JCM2000 DSL made after 2003 is your best option IMO.


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A used JCM2000 DSL maybe? The green channel is close to JCM800 in voicing and you can get it way less than a grand. Its Marshall and sounds like one.

Peavey Windsor and I think Laney GH50 (I may mix this to some other model) are based on JCM800 but with their own twist.

The GH really doesn't sound of feel anything like an 800 to me. The AOR does, but I'd listen to Cathbard.

The 1980 by Krank is excellent, I hear great things about the Chadwick. A Jet City 100HDM is in the same vein and is good an amp as you can get for the price used. Besides possibly the dirt cheap Peavey VTM
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Old 04-16-2014, 10:07 PM   #19
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Old 04-16-2014, 10:24 PM   #20
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I'd take a VTM over an AOR. The only people that should buy AOR's are those with the technical skills required to keep the working. They were made during a period where Laney QC was so bad that even Tony Iommi stopped using them.

A JCM2000 DSL made after 2003 is your best option IMO.


I'm handy with a soldering iron and know my way around electronics. While I've never fixed an amp I feel confident I could fix it if need be. But I will look into the other amps suggested as well.
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