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Old 07-27-2014, 01:34 PM   #1
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Boss Ns2 love?

call me crazy, but I used a Boss Ns2 for almost 6 years....now I've been using the Isp Decimator for the last year...and I've never truly been satisfied. I still own both... so I'm probably going to go back to my trusty old Ns2 for my touring rig, but I'm wondering if anyone else feels the same way? All "ISP brand brainwashing aside" , I can't ever find a good sweet spot for it. Whereas with the Ns2, I can always tweak it to a perfect setting. The Gate is always tighter, and I never have tone or sustain loss. Just sharing an opinion haha.
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Old 07-27-2014, 01:50 PM   #2
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People tend to pick one or the other.
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Old 07-27-2014, 03:07 PM   #3
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i prefer the decimator but i could use the ns2 just fine if i had to
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Old 07-27-2014, 06:16 PM   #4
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I've pretty much always been saying exactly what you're saying. I've gone through like 3 NS-2s buying and selling as my rig has evolved. I've always been completely satisfied with it.

One knob? Get the **** out of my face.

That's what I say.
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Old 07-27-2014, 06:27 PM   #5
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I really liked my NS-2 when I had it. I switched my whole rig over to the HD 500, which has a model of the NS-2 and a model of the Decimator. I like the NS-2 in front of the amp but I like Decimator in the FX loop. Either one the other way around suck the tone too much. I dunno.
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Old 07-27-2014, 06:33 PM   #6
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I've never used the NS2, but I picked up a ISP a few months back, and couldn't be happier.

I just turn my rig on, set the pedal to zero, turn it on, then just turn the knob until I hear the background noise completely go away (usually about 1/4 of the way), then I just turn it back a hair so I can still get a little feedback when I want, and doesn't effect my tone at all.

Pretty much fool proof IMO. My rig usuaully isn't too noisy, but those damn P90's in my LP sure like the buzz

I also own a smart gate. Its the most useless thing I've ever spent money on. just sucks tone and doesn't really do a good job at getting rid of the background noise.
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Old 07-27-2014, 06:33 PM   #7
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Wait, the HD500 has multiple noise gate models? dafuq?

EDIT: Wow, I may be ******ed. Well how about that.
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Wait, the HD500 has multiple noise gate models? dafuq?


Yeah there's the "Noise Gate", which is like a NS with Threshold and Decay controls, then a "Hard Gate" which you set the open and close dB tolerances and a decay time.
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I've pretty much always been saying exactly what you're saying. I've gone through like 3 NS-2s buying and selling as my rig has evolved. I've always been completely satisfied with it.

One knob? Get the **** out of my face.

That's what I say.


To be fair, the ns2 pretty much has one knob too since you normally set decay at minimum (I think, I might have that backwards ) for most uses.

And yeah when I first got the decimator I wasn't aware of the x-pattern way to use the NS-2. I found the NS-2 to be more or less useless for cutting amp noise if you don't use the x-pattern. But yeah with it it's fine. The decimator is a little more transparent and maybe slightly more sophisticated in use (and the buffer is a bit better and it doesn't seem to boost your signal as much as the ns2), but yeah I could use the ns2 just fine.
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I have never had any coloration or issue with the NS-2. Tried it extensively in chain on, in chain off, out of chain, the tone was the same every time.
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For once I side with boss. Like the guy said, 1 knob? Really? A noise gate needs to be more adjustable than just the threshold. The decay and strength and hold times are very important.

Some noise gates are smart and aren't binary in cutting out the noise, and slides from on and off to make things smoother. Can sound good if you set it up to not kill your tone.

The POD always had noise gates. A good mfx should always have a noise gate on it.
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I have never had any coloration or issue with the NS-2. Tried it extensively in chain on, in chain off, out of chain, the tone was the same every time.


I like the NS-2 more than the ISP. NS-2 didn't color my sound at all, I was very surprised to see how well it worked. I am lame and just run it into the amp, not even 4-cable.
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The NS-2 and the ISP are 2 different pedal types used for 2 different playing styles...The NS-2 is a noise suppressor, the ISP is a noise gate. NS-2 does a lot of things well but if want the tight punchy <djent> picking style with sharp attack, the ISP is what you need.

It's like comparing an overdrive to a distortion pedal...
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I have never had any coloration or issue with the NS-2. Tried it extensively in chain on, in chain off, out of chain, the tone was the same every time.


i thought i noticed a pretty noticeable boost with it turned on

granted i suppose that's an improvement over most of the boss buffers which aren't even at unity gain
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