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Old Yesterday, 01:47 PM   #1
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Achieving a Def Leppard Tone?

Ok so i've been listening to Def Leppard a lot recently, and i've just fallen in love with their tone and i am seriously considering trying to aim for that kinda tone for my own tone (if that makes sense)

So what would i need to achieve that kinda tone, as this is something that will undoubtedly take years to achieve would be great if people could suggest a long term gear set (Like a cab and head for example) and a short term gear set (like a Valve combo for example), i know that i'm gonna need a Les Paul for that tone, i'm already looking for LP's with thinner necks (i made a topic about it a few days ago actually)
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Old Yesterday, 02:07 PM   #2
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which era of def leppard?
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Old Yesterday, 02:10 PM   #3
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which era of def leppard?

I'm thinking High N' Dry or Hysteria maybe with a touch of Adrenalize (I love "Lets get Rocked")
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you need an explorer and a JMP 2203/JCM800 2203
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Old Yesterday, 02:14 PM   #5
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Hysteria was recorded using a Rockman amp and a little G&K.
Which is a headphone amp/guitar DI box
EDIT: Not to mention all kinds of studio wizardry like playing chords one note at a time and layering them in
They talk about it all in here
http://www.musicradar.com/news/guit...by-track-551822

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Old Yesterday, 02:24 PM   #6
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^ yeah def leppard's pretty processed

to get roughly into the ballpark, though, something hot rod marshally or soldanoey (amp) combined with a superstrat with a bridge humbucker will probably get you fairly close, at least for phil collen.

EDIT: od boost pedal won't hurt.

for the more processedy stuff, delay/reverb/chorus, most likely.
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Old Yesterday, 02:29 PM   #7
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you need an explorer and a JMP 2203/JCM800 2203

What about a amp that's being made now, just did a quick google search looks like those amps aren't being made anymore meaning they'll be stupid priced (ik it'll be expensive anyway but still)
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^ yeah def leppard's pretty processed

to get roughly into the ballpark, though, something hot rod marshally or soldanoey (amp) combined with a superstrat with a bridge humbucker will probably get you fairly close, at least for phil collen.

EDIT: od boost pedal won't hurt.

for the more processedy stuff, delay/reverb/chorus, most likely.

So we talking something like a JCM800 2203 reissue using a tub screamer, and as for the guitar even though you say a superstrat, would a LP do it?
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Old Yesterday, 02:32 PM   #9
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Where are you located?
Budget?

If you're in the states, I've seen JCM800 2203s go for around $750-900, though I've seen them for as much as $1,200
Not stupidly priced at all

The reissues, however, ARE stupidly priced
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Old Yesterday, 02:34 PM   #10
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Where are you located?
Budget?

If you're in the states, I've seen JCM800 2203s go for around $750-900, though I've seen them for as much as $1,200
Not stupidly priced at all

The reissues, however, ARE stupidly priced

I'm from the UK and i'm not looking at budgets yet wanna know what i would need to consider first
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UK seems to be around 800-1200 pounds
Which is a damn sight better than the 3 or 4k they're charging for the reissues

Pretty much for anything 80's, you want a JCM800 or a Soldano SLO
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UK seems to be around 800-1200 pounds
Which is a damn sight better than the 3 or 4k they're charging for the reissues

Pretty much for anything 80's, you want a JCM800 or a Soldano SLO

What about pedals etc.? we talking like an ibanez tube screamer as well as other effects?
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Aye, a tubescreamer was the go-to OD for boosting em
As far as chorus goes, if you can find a BOSS CE-2, grab it.
They seem to be going for around 100 pounds on ebay at the moment.
Might want a delay as well.
I like the TC Electronic Flashback
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Old Yesterday, 03:08 PM   #14
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Aye, a tubescreamer was the go-to OD for boosting em
As far as chorus goes, if you can find a BOSS CE-2, grab it.
They seem to be going for around 100 pounds on ebay at the moment.
Might want a delay as well.
I like the TC Electronic Flashback

What about achieving that tone at bedroom rocker levels? a 100w head and cab isn't really meant for a bedroom scenario
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Old Yesterday, 03:15 PM   #15
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It can still be done.
I use a 50W head at bedroom volumes.
It won't sound it's absolute best, but it won't sound bad at all.
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Old Yesterday, 03:49 PM   #16
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Hi Tcrumpen!

Your post is actually very similar to a post I did a couple of weeks back!
I myself did too fall in love with the sweet and addicting Def Leppard sound!
I love how Hysteria and Pour Some Sugar On Me sounds - man, those guitar parts!

Here's a complete live show from Def Leppard's Viva Hysteria Tour:



I researched a lot myself to find links, and I found these - which is a complete rig rundown of Def Leppard guitarist Phil Collen, the lead guitarist!
In these links Phil also talks about his tone and Hysteria





As far as a gear list goes, I would suggest this: (These items are what Phil Collen uses and what he has in his rig)

Palmer PDI-03 Speaker Simulator.
Marshall JMP-1 Rack Mount Preamp.
T.C. Electronic D-two Delay unit.
T.C. Electronic G-Major or other modulation rack mount effect.

As far as guitars goes I would highly recommend Jackson Guitars - that's what Phil Collen uses too - that his main brand of guitars!

As Phil Collen also mentions in the Rig Rundown, most of his sound is coming from the rack and its effects - he hasn't got any amps on stage, only a couple of cabs as monitors. A big deal of his sound is running directly into the PA System.

I love the sound of Def Leppard and the last couple of months/weeks has made me a lot more aware of my sound and guitar tone - and the possibilities for getting myself a better and more consistent rig.

Check all this out and let me know what you end up doing!
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Old Yesterday, 03:59 PM   #17
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Hi Tcrumpen!

Your post is actually very similar to a post I did a couple of weeks back!
I myself did too fall in love with the sweet and addicting Def Leppard sound!
I love how Hysteria and Pour Some Sugar On Me sounds - man, those guitar parts!

Here's a complete live show from Def Leppard's Viva Hysteria Tour:



I researched a lot myself to find links, and I found these - which is a complete rig rundown of Def Leppard guitarist Phil Collen, the lead guitarist!
In these links Phil also talks about his tone and Hysteria





As far as a gear list goes, I would suggest this: (These items are what Phil Collen uses and what he has in his rig)

Palmer PDI-03 Speaker Simulator.
Marshall JMP-1 Rack Mount Preamp.
T.C. Electronic D-two Delay unit.
T.C. Electronic G-Major or other modulation rack mount effect.

As far as guitars goes I would highly recommend Jackson Guitars - that's what Phil Collen uses too - that his main brand of guitars!

As Phil Collen also mentions in the Rig Rundown, most of his sound is coming from the rack and its effects - he hasn't got any amps on stage, only a couple of cabs as monitors. A big deal of his sound is running directly into the PA System.

I love the sound of Def Leppard and the last couple of months/weeks has made me a lot more aware of my sound and guitar tone - and the possibilities for getting myself a better and more consistent rig.

Check all this out and let me know what you end up doing!


Well i'm not gonna be going the rack amps etc. route i aint that big also there's something nice about a actual physical amp rather than a rack, although i love using technology to make music better and easier (in terms of transporting) i always think of guitarists as having a amp and head or combo, just kinda fits my idea

So no Les Pauls then?
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Well i'm not gonna be going the rack amps etc. route i aint that big also there's something nice about a actual physical amp rather than a rack, although i love using technology to make music better and easier (in terms of transporting) i always think of guitarists as having a amp and head or combo, just kinda fits my idea

So no Les Pauls then?


Alright, well yeah, you can go around it that way too..
I think I'm slowly beginning to see the advantages of a more compact setup

Well, no Les Paul, not if you wanna get real close. Jackson guitars is what Phil Collen uses and has always done.
Not to say that a Les Paul wont do the job, but the Jackson is the way to go about it
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Alright, well yeah, you can go around it that way too..
I think I'm slowly beginning to see the advantages of a more compact setup

Well, no Les Paul, not if you wanna get real close. Jackson guitars is what Phil Collen uses and has always done.
Not to say that a Les Paul wont do the job, but the Jackson is the way to go about it

Oh i def see the advantage of compact set-up, but i can just see that being a problem if you wanna say jam with someone cos they looks a bit weird when out of a rack
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Oh i def see the advantage of compact set-up, but i can just see that being a problem if you wanna say jam with someone cos they looks a bit weird when out of a rack


Hmm, I can see that being a problem because you don't have the actual amp with the speaker to plug in and that you need the PA as you speaker, that's right..
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