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Old 12-20-2011, 05:38 PM   #1
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Pedals vs Processors

I myself like to use pedals over effects processors. I have owned a few effects processors throug they years but I always find myself going back to analog pedals. I think the tone is much better and you can get more out of them, however, it can get expensive. Whats your opinon.
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Old 12-20-2011, 05:45 PM   #2
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well imo pedals sound better, but you get what you pay for, digital effects you can have alot more options for cheap, but they dont sound genuine to me
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Old 12-20-2011, 05:48 PM   #3
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I have a multi effects processor that I use when I need anything other than distortion. I only ever use my amp's distortion, so have no need for a pedal to do that for me.

I have the effects unit for when I want to play with something different, so I want as many options as possible to play with - the effects themselves would possibly be better if I used individual pedals for each, but as I use them so rarely it just wouldn't make sense to invest in a new pedal each time I wanted something different just for the sake of occasional experimentation.
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Old 12-20-2011, 07:06 PM   #4
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I agree. I can't stand the distortion from an effects processor. It can be a horrid sound. I did own a RP500, and it had alot of options and combinations possible. But when I would pick a pedal, say a univibe and compared it to the tone of my analog univibe, the analog was so much better. I think Processors are good for getting ideas and trying new stuff but not of recording or performing on stage. It just doesn't get it done for me.
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Old 12-20-2011, 08:09 PM   #5
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My multifx work for me. I like to mix them up with separate pedals as well.
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Old 12-20-2011, 08:17 PM   #6
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Good processors beat bad pedals every time.

Good pedals beat bad processors every time.

It really depends on how much money you're comfortable spending, and what your needs are.
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Old 12-20-2011, 09:02 PM   #7
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I've always preferred individual pedals, as it allows me to tweak each pedal quickly and easily.
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Old 12-20-2011, 10:27 PM   #8
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i think an effects processor could beat one pedal, maybe even 2 pedals. any more than 3 pedals and the processor is gonna have a hard time making it past round 3.

truth is they are different technologies with different strengths and weaknesses (and price ranges). hard to directly compare axefx to a klon, but it's easier to compare certain effects like a ehx HOG and the digitech whammy wah.

i say either could be 'better' depending on a number of factors
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Old 12-20-2011, 11:18 PM   #9
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I much prefer pedals to processors. I like how easily you can change the sound of a pedal, and change the order or your effects. I have to admit I've never used a multi fx though. They seem complicated and I've never heard one that sounded good enough to make me want to trade in my pedals.
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Old 12-21-2011, 12:53 AM   #10
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I much prefer pedals to processors. I like how easily you can change the sound of a pedal, and change the order or your effects. I have to admit I've never used a multi fx though. They seem complicated and I've never heard one that sounded good enough to make me want to trade in my pedals.


You prefer one to the other, yet have never tried the other?

It's easier to change the order of effects on the cirrent generation of processors. The knobs on my eleven rack are the same knobs/controls on the amps and effects it models.

If I want to move an EQ effect, or any other effect, I hit "edit" scroll to the effects I want to move, hit the "move" button, use the scroll wheel to move it left or right in the chain, and hit move again.

Dweezil zappa seems to enjoy his Axe FX. Sounds great. You don't just buy an effects/amp processor and match it with whatever you have lying around. Axe FX through a crap PA or speaker will sound crap. Just like a JVM through an MG cab.
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Old 12-21-2011, 01:05 AM   #11
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pedals are processors. they process tone into awesome.
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Old 12-21-2011, 02:26 AM   #12
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You prefer one to the other, yet have never tried the other?


Yea, reading that back now, I feel really dumb. Gotta give me a break, finals have turned my brain to mush.

I've used some of my friends' RPs on occaision, the tone just didn't thrill me at all. I know an rp isnt exactly the top of the line, and I should be comparing to something a bit better, but I guess what I'm trying to say is that I prefer the physical layout of analog pedals to going through a menu to select an effect. It just seems so much more natural to plug a box into a box into another box, then switch them around physically.
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Old 12-21-2011, 02:37 AM   #13
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You guys do realize that digital effects can be in single boxes, right?
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Yea, reading that back now, I feel really dumb. Gotta give me a break, finals have turned my brain to mush.

I've used some of my friends' RPs on occaision, the tone just didn't thrill me at all. I know an rp isnt exactly the top of the line, and I should be comparing to something a bit better, but I guess what I'm trying to say is that I prefer the physical layout of analog pedals to going through a menu to select an effect. It just seems so much more natural to plug a box into a box into another box, then switch them around physically.


I can say the same thing about tape delays vs delay pedals. tape flanger vs flanger pedal, etc. "Natural" means different things.
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Good processors beat bad pedals every time.

Good pedals beat bad processors every time.

It really depends on how much money you're comfortable spending, and what your needs are.

This.
I use MFX units because I like MIDI. I can program each song to perfection and know that everything will change (including my amp channel) to what I need with a single button.
MIDI rigs for a working musician are worth their weight in yak fat. For jamming or just dicking around they can be a pita.
I use the classic GP-8 and the sensational Quadraverb in conjunction with a great valve amp, not some crappy little beginners MFX.
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Old 12-21-2011, 11:22 PM   #16
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I don't have experience with some of the newer processors, but my experience has generally been that FX Processors mostly can't produce a desirable overdriven sound. I used to use a Roland GP-100, and it was useful for the cleaner sounds and the FX-FX. But I could barely get a tolerable distortion patch on the thing for the 2-3 years or so that I was using it. By the time I stopped using the thing, half of the patches were tweaked to hell.
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Old 12-21-2011, 11:46 PM   #17
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Where is the "Both" option?

OD, EQ, Noise Gate = Pedals
Delay, Compression, Wah, Flanger, Chorus = MFX
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Analog FTW! Then I can actually change how the effect reacts, and such by changing components and actually be able to fix it if anything fails!
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The only Roland GP-X worth owning is the GP-8. That's because it has a heap of analog pedals built in. The later ones were all digital and sound like crap. The GP-8 was basically 8 Boss pedals in one box with MIDI control.
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The only Roland GP-X worth owning is the GP-8. That's because it has a heap of analog pedals built in. The later ones were all digital and sound like crap. The GP-8 was basically 8 Boss pedals in one box with MIDI control.


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