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Old 04-19-2015, 11:44 AM   #1
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US To people living in the US: Should I move there?

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I've been thinking about my future and how I'd want to live in about 8-10 years.
I compared prices of houses here, with those in the US and was amazed at how cheap most houses are in the US compared to those here in Belgium.

This house costs about 286,000$, has 4 bedrooms, 1 bathroom, no garage and needs renovating.
It's located in a small town. This is pretty much a typical price for a house like this over here.



But houses in the US are much bigger and cost less.
Utica, NY
4 beds, 2,5 bath, indoor swimming pool.
199,900$


Moberly, MO
5 beds, 4,5 bath, 2 garages, 6 fireplaces and 5,400 sqft!
239,900$ (I showed pictures of this house to a friend that's an architect and recently bought his first house and he estimated the price around 1 million)


These kinds of big houses with those prices even seem to be pretty common in the US so it's not that these are once in a lifetime opportunities.

Now, do I need to live in a huge house like this? No, of course not, I don't think anyone does.
But I don't want to stay here and pay the same amount for something that's much smaller. So if I have the opportunity to move and work in the US, I'll take it!

But is there some kind of catch? I favorited about 40 amazing houses in the US that I saw on Zillow.com and I can't see anything wrong with them. Nice neighbourhoods and most are near a city.

Any advice, comments?
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Old 04-19-2015, 11:50 AM   #2
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Yeah you can buy a house like that for a couple hundred thousand, of course in a small town you'll be surrounded by drug addicts, religious idiots, and nothing to do within 50-150 miles, but yeah.

If you want to spend 400 a month on rent you can get an appartment.

I think the house I'm living in is 2 bedrooms and cost 30,000 dollars.

If you like keeping to yourself and aren't gun shy you'll fit in any rural area.
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Old 04-19-2015, 11:50 AM   #3
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> But is there some kind of catch?

If it seems too good to be true, it is.

Lower priced houses that are sizable usually indicate some or all of the following:
- far away from urban centers
- high crime / poor education area
- low income area, lack of economic opportunity
- house has many hidden flaws
- foreclosed home which is usually a sign of all of the above

If I remember from your other thread, you just graduated with a music degree. I'm sorry but it will be extremely difficult, if not downright impossible, for you to work here. You will not be able to obtain an employment visa without sponsorship from a US employer, and virtually no US employer in any music related industry will offer that.

You can try filing for a general immigration visa, but it would be foolish to do so and move here without a sizable savings account to buoy yourself for at least a couple of months.
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Old 04-19-2015, 11:52 AM   #4
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Old 04-19-2015, 11:53 AM   #5
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I think being able to move there is the hardest part i.e. obtaining a visa/citizenship
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Old 04-19-2015, 11:57 AM   #6
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Old 04-19-2015, 12:09 PM   #7
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> But is there some kind of catch?

If it seems too good to be true, it is.

Lower priced houses that are sizable usually indicate some or all of the following:
- far away from urban centers
- high crime / poor education area
- low income area, lack of economic opportunity
- house has many hidden flaws
- foreclosed home which is usually a sign of all of the above


Those are only true in certain areas. The "hidden flaws" one is never true, given the disclosure laws.

I'm in Houston, so plenty of economic opportunity. I live in a very low crime area with excellent schooling and I'm near more things to do than I'll ever be able to take advantage of. 4br, 2 1/2 ba, 2575 ft.^2 and a 3 car detached garage on a corner lot.. $190,000

The rest of your post I agree with.
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Old 04-19-2015, 12:16 PM   #8
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Those are only true in certain areas. The "hidden flaws" one is never true, given the disclosure laws.

The hidden flaws are just things that you can't see in the photos. There are plenty of details that do not need to be disclosed by law.

And yes, Houston and other urban centers in Texas are an exception, because Texas is experiencing an economic boom while also having a vast track of land for cheap real estate.

But places that OP mentioned? MO? You couldn't pay me to live in that shithole state.
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In MO I'd recommend having any house you plan on buying tested for residue and chemicals left by meth manufacturing.

LOL nailed it
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Old 04-19-2015, 12:33 PM   #11
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Those houses would be lonely as hell if you don't have a family to fill it.

My thoughts exactly. Who the hell needs that much space? Unless if you've got the personality of a shark and/or mild psychopathic behavior, the States can be a very lonely and hard place to dwell in if you don't have a web of connections set before you. The grass is green wherever you water it. The entire World is becoming so blended and globalized that a change of scenery is the only unique thing you'll find when you move. People are people, no matter where you go.
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Old 04-19-2015, 12:58 PM   #13
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But is there some kind of catch?


Yeah youd have to live in either the dump that is Utica, NY or Moberly, MO.

With real estate the only important thing is location location location. I know nothing about those two (prolly hicktown) cities, but theyre probably lame
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Old 04-19-2015, 01:09 PM   #14
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Location, location, location. There are some gorgeous houses in the city my college is in that should cost upwards of $800k that are only around $300-$400k. The reason they're so much cheaper than they should be is because this city is awful.

There are also places like Oklahoma where my family used to live where the land just sucks. Everything is flat, the weather sucks, there's no trees or anything nice for miles around, and the city's miles out, so they were able to build a house for about $400k that would probably cost seven figures in a nicer area.

That said, you never know. You might not mind the specific "problems" with those houses. Befriend a local before you visit and have them come househunting along with you, they can give the answers about a lot of things that the real estate agent won't.
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I don't know whether you were being facetious or not, but I second this regardless.
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Utica is in the middle of nowhere and isn't a particularly pleasant city. Its pretty grey and depressing. Honestly, if you're looking to move to North America I'd start your search in Canada. They have a better health care system than we in the US do and I think you'd have an easier time getting your degree recognized than in the US (I know people with masters degrees from other counties that had to take menial/entry level jobs because their degrees weren't recognized here) If you speak French I think you'd find Quebec to be really nice and would experience a bit less culture shock than if you moved to, say, a piece of sh*t state like Missouri.
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Life in the US is really all about choices. You can make your life here amazing or intolerable by the choices you make and most immigrants thrive once they get a taste of freedom and opportunity. Too many of our own youth are jaded, sitting around waiting for "the good life" to be handed too them instead of going out and making it happen.

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