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Old 12-29-2011, 04:12 PM   #41
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Not sure what you mean exactly but I presume you equate all nihilism with radical nihilism - the idea that nothing exist.
But that's far from all nihilism. I hateo use wikipedia as a source but it's article on nihilis is pretty good.
Moral nihilism for one states that all morals are completely man (or animal) made and do not exist outside our minds.
I very much agree with this but that doesn't mean I disregard morals. Not at all actually. I very much enjoy following them.


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Old 12-29-2011, 04:13 PM   #42
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I know, I wasn't being serious.

I got what you were saying 3/4 into writing my post but didn't want to quit then.
I apologise for my daftness.
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Old 12-29-2011, 04:16 PM   #43
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I got what you were saying 3/4 into writing my post but didn't want to quit then.
I apologise for my daftness.

It's fine man, it was a terrible joke anyway.
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Old 12-29-2011, 04:17 PM   #44
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It's fine man, it was a terrible joke anyway.


It had to be made, though.
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Old 12-29-2011, 04:21 PM   #45
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Are you making a joke by changing nothing or am I missing something?
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Old 12-29-2011, 04:24 PM   #46
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Are you making a joke by changing nothing or am I missing something?

He is making a profound statement for nihilism, you spent so much time looking for something that was never there.

I reread it a couple times myself >.>
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Old 12-29-2011, 04:25 PM   #47
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He is making a profound statement for nihilism, you spent so much time looking for something that was never there.

I reread it a couple times myself >.>

5th sentence silly.
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Old 12-29-2011, 04:27 PM   #48
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5th sentence silly.

I still don't see it
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I still don't see it


I didn't care enough to fix it.













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Hello, since this is a new one I figured it would be a good time to reveal myself as a long-time lurkosaurus in this thread. So hi there. Perhaps I'll begin emerging more often now.
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Not sure what you mean exactly but I presume you equate all nihilism with radical nihilism - the idea that nothing exists.
But that's far from all nihilism. I hate to use Wikipedia as a source but it's article on nihilism is pretty good.
Moral nihilism for one states that all morals are completely man (or animal) made and do not exist outside of our minds.
I very much agree with this but that doesn't mean I disregard morals. Not at all actually. I very much enjoy following them.
Edit: Correcting mistakes.

So, just moral nihilism then? 'Nihilism' usually just refers to being in a state of despair and cynicism. It's something to has to be addressed and overcome (to a lot of philosophers). A lot of people also mean Existentialism when they say Nihilism.
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Old 12-29-2011, 05:09 PM   #53
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So, just moral nihilism then? 'Nihilism' usually just refers to being in a state of despair and cynicism. It's something to has to be addressed and overcome (to a lot of philosophers). A lot of people also mean Existentialism when they say Nihilism.

Well I am pretty cynical. I practically despise some things that seem overly positive to me. Our Slovene teacher gave out an assignment for which we had to write witty sentance saying 'X makes me happy because Y'. My classmates all wrote very positive sentances and they annoyed me very much since they sounded like clichés. So I decided to rewrite them in a very cynical way.
'Twas for the lulz but it gives you the general idea.
This could be just a phase I'm in but I'm not at all in a state of dispair. Infact I'm very content with my life right now - everything seems to be going my way.
And before anyone jumps to conclusions, I'm not a goth kid. I'm blond and the only black thing I wear are two or three of my T-shirts.
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While we're on the topic of ownership, I want to talk to about the philosophy behind it. What do you think about the ownership of

(a) Information (intellectual property)
(b) Resources (money or physical resource ownership)
(c) Other people (traditional slavery, indentured servitude, corporations and employees)

respectively? I dislike all three, but I would ideally have just (b) without (a) and (c), to keep the world running. Why do we need to own things?
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While we're on the topic of ownership, I want to talk to about the philosophy behind it. What do you think about the ownership of

(a) Information (intellectual property)
(b) Resources (money or physical resource ownership)
(c) Other people (traditional slavery, indentured servitude, corporations and employees)

respectively? I dislike all three, but I would ideally have just (b) without (a) and (c), to keep the world running. Why do we need to own things?


Yes to (a) and (b). (c) is sketchy
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Old 12-29-2011, 05:21 PM   #56
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Yes to (a) and (b). (c) is sketchy


But a human is the best resource of them all. He can not only collect other resources, but also manipulate them. While we're on this planet owning things, why not own other humans?
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Old 12-29-2011, 05:22 PM   #57
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While we're on the topic of ownership, I want to talk to about the philosophy behind it. What do you think about the ownership of

(a) Information (intellectual property)
(b) Resources (money or physical resource ownership)
(c) Other people (traditional slavery, indentured servitude, corporations and employees)

respectively? I dislike all three, but I would ideally have just (b) without (a) and (c), to keep the world running. Why do we need to own things?

Well I am sorry to go into political waters but a) seems like a product of capitalism - correct me if I'm wrong. I agree that information should not have an owner.
The second point - b) - should also be abolished when speaking theoretically, but acheiving such a system in our world is almost impossible at this time.
C) is not even up for debate as far as I'm concerned - it's bad, bad, bad.
Edit: Oh I thought you meant just slavery. The other versions of such ownership are definitely up for debate.
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It's something to has to be addressed and overcome (to a lot of philosophers).

Good for them. How's that going so far for them?
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But a human is the best resource of them all. He can not only collect other resources, but also manipulate them. While we're on this planet owning things, why not own other humans?


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Well I am sorry to go into political waters but a) seems like a product of capitalism - correct me if I'm wrong. I agree that information should not have an owner.


As a composer, would you never copyright your work?
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