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Old 01-26-2012, 06:25 PM   #1
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Cube 80XL and Peavey Vypyr Tube 60 ?

I have a great half stack but that stays at my practice spot, so I am looking for an amp for my house that is portable and can double as a backup amp for gigging in case I have an problems with my Laney. I have tried both and they both sound great for the price. The built in effects would be fun for playing around at home but if I needed to use either in a live application I would be using it with my pedal board. So my question is, does anyone have an experience running pedals into either amp? Which do you think would take pedals better? As I said I have tried both amps, but havent had the opportunity to try either with any pedals, so I am just kind of curious. As it stands right now I am leaning towards the roland.
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Old 01-26-2012, 06:30 PM   #2
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If you're going to use your pedalboard anyway, you should just get something like a used DSL combo. It'd be a waste to get a modeling amp.
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Old 01-26-2012, 06:36 PM   #3
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If you're going to use your pedalboard anyway, you should just get something like a used DSL combo. It'd be a waste to get a modeling amp.


The pedal board pretty much stays at my practice spot also. So 99% of the time I would be using the on board effects and it would be nice to have them.
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Old 01-26-2012, 06:54 PM   #4
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Oh, okay.

Well, I'm a bit biased, but I think the Vypyr Tube blows a Cube away.

You might want to invest in a Sanpera and just go with that though. Modeling amps almost never have FX loops, and it's completely random how they'll choose to play with an effect. Using a full pedalboard with a modeling amp just isn't a good idea.
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Old 01-26-2012, 08:03 PM   #5
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Oh, okay.

Well, I'm a bit biased, but I think the Vypyr Tube blows a Cube away.

You might want to invest in a Sanpera and just go with that though. Modeling amps almost never have FX loops, and it's completely random how they'll choose to play with an effect. Using a full pedalboard with a modeling amp just isn't a good idea.


I should have mentioned, even with my Laney I use od and distortion pedals, so no effects loop isnt an issue. I run all of my effects into the front of the amp.
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Old 01-27-2012, 12:18 AM   #6
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I'm biased toward my Vypyr 60 as well and have never played a Cube 80 -BUT- I did do a smallish clippy in my profile running pedals in front of my Vypyr to see what would happen.

it was done in this order

MXR Carbon Copy
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The Phase 90 didn't sound the greatest but overall I was pretty surprised

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Old 01-27-2012, 03:00 AM   #7
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Cube 80

Sounds less tinny and thin
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Old 01-27-2012, 03:07 AM   #8
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i mean i rpefered my cube 15 over my vypyr but its hard to believe the 80 would be better than the tube 60.
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Old 01-27-2012, 03:11 AM   #9
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well the tube 60 doesnt really sound like a real tube amp tbh (and you cant expect it too).
dont get suckered in by 4 little letters.
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Old 01-27-2012, 03:15 AM   #10
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ohh okay. sounds cool. ill consider the 80 myself then.
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Old 01-27-2012, 06:00 AM   #11
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well the tube 60 doesnt really sound like a real tube amp tbh (and you cant expect it too).
dont get suckered in by 4 little letters.


It's a hybrid. It sounds like a hybrid. Those 4 letters aren't just there for show, unlike most "hybrids". It sounds significantly better than pretty much any SS amp (the arguable "better" ones being stuff like the Vetta). It does lack some characteristics of an all tube amp, but not enough for it to not be a very serious contender.

Source: I've owned a Vypyr 75, Vypyr Tube 120 and a 5150 all right next to each other.
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I should have mentioned, even with my Laney I use od and distortion pedals, so no effects loop isnt an issue. I run all of my effects into the front of the amp.


Wat. The VH100R has great distortion. Why use a pedal?
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Old 01-27-2012, 10:25 AM   #13
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Wat. The VH100R has great distortion. Why use a pedal?


Because it makes me life easier. I use pretty high gain, I was getting massive amounts of feedback using the amps distortion. When I had my noise suppressor turned high enough to kill the feedback, it was to high and also killing my playing dynamic, but when I turned it down i was still getting the feedback. Also there is the issue that when I have the noise gate turned on it kills my clean tone, so when I would switch the disortion of I would also have to turn of my noise gate. So when I was going from a part in a song that was distorted, to a part in a song thats clean with chorus I had to switch of my distortion, switch of my noise suppressor, turn on the delay and turn on the chorus. That is just to much tap dancing for me.

So anyway I found a great solution for my problem. The Amptweaker Tight metal pedal. It sounds amazing. Not like cheaper distortion pedals, doesnt have that high end hiss. It sounds very natural, and being run into the front of my amp, through its preamp it effects the tone slightly making it conform to the amp a bit. The pedal reacts and cleans up like a tube amp does to volume changes. It has a built in noise gate which takes care of the feedback, but also has a built in effects loop, so I plug my isp decimator into the effects loop and between that and the built in noise gate, no matter how much gain I'm using it is silent when I am not playing, but because of the effects loop the decimator is only on when the distortion is on, so I dont have to turn it off every time I switch to my clean channel.

So yeah, makes life easier with less tap dancing, and sounds amazing. i get more compliments on my tone now than I ever have before. It also cuts through the mix very well. I'm sure that was a lot longer of a response than you were expecting lol but there you go
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Old 01-27-2012, 11:59 AM   #14
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It's a hybrid. It sounds like a hybrid. Those 4 letters aren't just there for show, unlike most "hybrids". It sounds significantly better than pretty much any SS amp (the arguable "better" ones being stuff like the Vetta). It does lack some characteristics of an all tube amp, but not enough for it to not be a very serious contender.

Source: I've owned a Vypyr 75, Vypyr Tube 120 and a 5150 all right next to each other.

+1

My Vypyr 60 doesn't sound thin or tinny at all.
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My vote would go towards a used Cube 60. Ive had mine sitting around for like 4 years. I play it at home (marshall DSL is WAYYY to loud to crank) and if im just jamming for fun i literally toss it into my friends van. Its bulletproof.

Theyre dirt cheap 2nd hand, sound great and you can put the money you save towards some other kind of gear
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Old 01-28-2012, 03:07 AM   #16
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@guitarguychris1 - What noise gate were you using? I had pretty much the same problems you described initially with my Boss NS-2, but once I actually figured out the pedal and had it all connected properly, I had none of those issues.

I would hate to see you sacrificing the actual gain on your amp because of a pedal that you just never had set up right.
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