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Old 02-13-2012, 04:52 PM   #1
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Which tubes for ENGL E350 and Peavey Classic 50/50?

No, they haven't blown already, but I recently purchased an ENGL E350 preamp and a Peavey Classic 50/50 power amp. I'm looking to get the best djent tone I can out of this. What tubes should I replace these with when they blow out? The ENGL came with ENGL 12ax7s and the Peavey has JJs in it I believe. Basically, I'm looking for something a little "harder" per say and with less gain. I was thinking Groove Tubes for the preamp, but I'm up for suggestions. What about the power amp?
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Old 02-13-2012, 05:04 PM   #2
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You sure you're scooping your mids enough? I think that's what djent guys do.
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Old 02-13-2012, 05:21 PM   #3
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You sure you're scooping your mids enough? I think that's what djent guys do.


Djent is all about the mids, as far as I understand, they help give the sound a kind of percussive quality.

As for the djenty-tube-stuff-question, there are other things you could do instead of changing the tubes. I've heard some awesome tones from the E530, so I doubt that is to blame. Assuming you aren't doing so already, you could try something a tube screamer in front of the amp, that's a very common thing to do. Maybe try an EQ pedal, or rack unit too, that can really help shape the sound.
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Old 02-13-2012, 07:45 PM   #4
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You sure you're scooping your mids enough? I think that's what djent guys do.


Just for the slim chance you're not trolling....this isn't true. Djent needs a healthy dose of mids (as it is low tuned) and pretty high treble to get that metallic scratchy sound. Also uses a lot of gain, but very tight noise gates to control it and chop off the tails.
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Old 02-13-2012, 10:38 PM   #5
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Set bass to 3, mids to 8 and treble to 6.5. Drop gain to about 4 but play on the high gain channel. Palm mute the crap out of it and voila! Djent. It's F**king magic. Honestly though, start with that. Your gear sounds like it should be fine, though you may want to put a ts in front at some point. Otherwise, you're golden
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Old 02-14-2012, 02:42 AM   #6
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Which e530 is it? The older ones had 3 or 4 12ax7's. The current ones only have one,m probably for a powertube saturation sound.
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Just for the slim chance you're not trolling....

Sure I wasn't

Anyways, do as Mark G just told you and see if that works out for you. I tried some recommended settings from who knows what site: gain set on 10 o'clock; bass set on 9 o'clock; mids 12 o'clock and treble was somewhere between 3 and 5 o'clock, on my DSL combo and I guess it worked, I just didn't like the tone myself.

Guess they're pretty close to what is recommended above.
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Old 02-04-2013, 02:14 PM   #8
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what about lower gain valves in V1, for added headroom?

I am considering trying that in my 6505, which i know isnt the standard for 'djent' but it really does sound good.

if you pay attention to say Periphery or Wide Eyes or Intervals or similar, the sound is extremely clear. i am guessing low gain 7025 or a good 5751 in V1 for this, although i am unsure of how it will react with a big boost in front of it.

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