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Old 02-16-2012, 12:56 AM   #21
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It wouldn't be worth the risk just to speed up something that had already happened. There is no reason at all to speed up progress that happened in the past.


Furthermore it would be difficult to do. You couldn't show the smartest smarty-pants in 1100 an Ipad and teach him to reverse engineer it. They would have no basis in even simple electronics. Hell they wouldn't know more than some mechanics.

Moreover, no one is really capable of demonstrating how to build one whole thing because everything is so specialized. Various people can build parts of things and another person can assemble those parts into a final product, but I doubt that anyone alive can make an entire airplane from scratch.
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Old 02-16-2012, 12:57 AM   #22
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Old 02-16-2012, 12:57 AM   #23
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The moment you travel back in time, you create a new timeline in a new universe, which explains why you can go back and kill your father.

So no, we're not being visited by our future selves anytime soon. Or at all for that matter. Either that or time travel has been outlawed and the punishment is something so cruel that we only discover in the future.
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Old 02-16-2012, 12:58 AM   #24
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If an astronaut leaves on a 10 year mission and travels a certain rate of speed (I forget the exact number) the entire mission, when he came home, 100 years would have passed on Earth, while only 10 passed for him because time slows down as velocity increases.

Does this mean if you fukked a bitch while grinding at the speed of light you'll seem to last for ages?
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Old 02-16-2012, 12:58 AM   #25
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Something about time-travel that nobody ever seems to realize:

Our planet is in motion and assuming time travel would fix your location, traveling back in time just an hour would place you out in space.
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Because you're also traveling that speed, time seems to run normally for you.
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Does this mean if you fukked a bitch while grinding at the speed of light you'll seem to last for ages?


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Old 02-16-2012, 01:00 AM   #28
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assuming time travel would fix your location


Time travel would definitely not happen at a fixed location.
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Something about time-travel that nobody ever seems to realize:

Our planet is in motion and assuming time travel would fix your location, traveling back in time just an hour would place you out in space.


If we're working in a hypothetical scenario that has scientists smart enough to figure out how to bend time, it's not too much of a stretch to assume they can bend space too.
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Something about time-travel that nobody ever seems to realize:

Our planet is in motion and assuming time travel would fix your location, traveling back in time just an hour would place you out in space.

Everyone knows the Earth is stationary. The Entire universe rotates around us.
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Something about time-travel that nobody ever seems to realize:

Our planet is in motion and assuming time travel would fix your location, traveling back in time just an hour would place you out in space.
This, but I think TS is assuming that we got that covered.
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If we were to invent time travel, it would only be possible to travel backwards to the point the first time machine worked.
It would create a loop in time starting at that point.
We'd be free to travel back to the point it was opened, but no further.

Time travel forward is possible.

If an astronaut leaves on a 10 year mission and travels a certain rate of speed (I forget the exact number) the entire mission, when he came home, 100 years would have passed on Earth, while only 10 passed for him because time slows down as velocity increases.


But wouldn't he still age as a person? I never really understood this. Just because a clock goes slower doesn't mean actual 'time' does. A clock is just mechanical and I can make my clock 2 hours later than it actually is, that doesn't mean me older.

How does this work?
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But wouldn't he still age as a person? I never really understood this. Just because a clock goes slower doesn't mean actual 'time' does. A clock is just mechanical and I can make my clock 2 hours later than it actually is, that doesn't mean me older.

How does this work?


It's not that just a clock slows down; everything slows down. Time has a lesser effect on the person as speed increases.
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Or, the way that we've discovered to time travel is to find two ends of a stable wormhole, accelerate one to near lightspeed so it remains almost at a certain point in time (to an outside observer), while letting the other end age normally.

Then there would be time travel, but you would only be able to travel back to a point at which we first accelerated one end of the wormhole to lightspeed. Since we haven't done that yet, no time travel yet.
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Time travel is impossible because time in itself doesn't truly exist. It is a concept made by man to understand the way of the world and to organize how daily events would pan out according to the weather and light.
Days are just the world turning and years are just the world orbiting the sun. A day is not a factor of time but a calculation of how the world functions. Time is only an invention.
Is time travel possible in space? Possibly. On earth? I doubt it.
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Old 02-16-2012, 01:04 AM   #36
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That would mean we don't really have free will and everything we do is pre planned and is destined to happen.


Not to be too off topic, but we don't have free will anyway in the philosophical sense, as I don't believe it's consistent with the Monism suggested by science.
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Old 02-16-2012, 01:04 AM   #37
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But wouldn't he still age as a person? I never really understood this. Just because a clock goes slower doesn't mean actual 'time' does. A clock is just mechanical and I can make my clock 2 hours later than it actually is, that doesn't mean me older.

How does this work?

A clock is just a way to measure time.
It doesn't dictate it.
The astronaut will still age, yes, but relatively slowly.
Time is a natural force in the universe, and one we don't understand very well.

Here's a better explanation than I could offer.
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/science/28cheap.html

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Time travel is impossible because time in itself doesn't truly exist. It is a concept made by man to understand the way of the world and to organize how daily events would pan out according to the weather and light.
Days are just the world turning and years are just the world orbiting the sun. A day is not a factor of time but a calculation of how the world functions. Time is only an invention.
Is time travel possible in space? Possibly. On earth? I doubt it.

No, time is a real and present force in the universe.
Recording the passage of time is our invention, and the way we record it, but time is very real.

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Time travel is impossible because time in itself doesn't truly exist. It is a concept made by man to understand the way of the world and to organize how daily events would pan out according to the weather and light.
Days are just the world turning and years are just the world orbiting the sun. A day is not a factor of time but a calculation of how the world functions. Time is only an invention.
Is time travel possible in space? Possibly. On earth? I doubt it.


No, time exists. Our measurement of it is invented, but it is still a component of the universe. Just because we measure distance doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
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