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Old 02-23-2012, 10:12 PM   #21
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^ You probably should have put it in the loop. Just having a gate in front doesn't really do much, IMO.
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Old 02-24-2012, 03:07 AM   #22
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Eh I disagree. Having it in the front works best for me. Right after the TS9. That's pretty much my only pedals. Works great for me. Although when I get my NS-2 I'm going to go


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-> Amp Input Guitar -> ISP -> TS9 -> NS-2 (X Pattern) -> Amp Loop


Goodbye all noise and hello straight up djent.

Might switch the ISP and the NS-2, I'll have to experiment.
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Old 02-24-2012, 03:54 AM   #23
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Most of the sound that's annoying that you'd want to repress and silence is the excess sound and feeback from the guitar signal so I've always thought it would logically be guitar -> TS9 -> noise gate -> amp input. Having a gate in the effects loop is just going to silence the preamp hiss and buzz but do nothing to silence the guitar and its subsequent feedback.
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^ You probably should have put it in the loop. Just having a gate in front doesn't really do much, IMO.

If I'm only going to get the results I'm looking for from having a gate in the effects loop and another for the front end, I would just get the NS-2 and try running it in the X-pattern. I'd get two separate pedals but I'm not in the market to be spending 200+ bucks on 2 decimators when a 90 buck NS-2 can do pretty much the same thing... it's just whether or not it can definitely pull it off. Just hoping that there's a place relatively close where I can drag my amp and give it a shot...
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Old 02-24-2012, 04:50 AM   #24
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Wait there is one more alternative to the Decimator.

MXR Noise Clamp

Not sure how it compares to an NS2 but it's definitely better than the MXR Smart Gate, and at $80 its cheaper than the ISP as well.
The NS2 that I tried in X-pattern was sorta eating up the lows & adding higher mids when it was turned on, it definitely works fine as a noise suppressor but there is definitely tone colouration happening with it active that's very much noticeable in person. It comes down to whether you like that colouration or not.

Try all the noise gates out there if you can.
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Old 02-24-2012, 11:32 AM   #25
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On that note there is one going for $65 shipped which is a nice deal.

http://www.rig-talk.com/forum/viewt...hp?f=6&t=111371
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Old 12-03-2012, 01:25 PM   #26
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have any possible modifications been taken into consideration?

changing capacitors for better quality ones, diodes for ones with more headroom, and Op-Amps for ones with less noise and distortion can make a massive difference.

a stand-fast rule I have learned is that all LEDs sound better than any other diode (in clean application) as they add a really nice warm character to the sound, and have so much headroom. as soon as I get new pedals where the PCBs are easy to access, I will put some in the signal path at some point, or run LEDs in parallel with the diodes already in there.

Burr Brown OPA2134PA Op-Amps are brilliant for a really clear sound, and stacking Op-Amps does absolute wonders for clarity, if done correctly. I find that any JRC4558 type Op-Amp, stacked with the BB sounds great in OD, Boost and Distortion boxes, and the BB stacked twice gives the best clean headroom.

A lot of noise is caused by static, interference and cheap components. higher-grade capacitor upgrades are a good place to start for that noise that cant be pin pointed.

i hope this helped
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Old 12-03-2012, 05:13 PM   #27
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The X-pattern works just fine.
The NS-2 rolls a bit of highend off your attack. But when playing at high volume "jam" levels it is not nearly as noticable. This is partially a result of the long, multiple cable lines.

I use the Decimator exclusively now and prefer it, but not by much.
The Decimator adds a very small amount of compression to your tone which I actually really like.
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