03-23-2011, 04:27 PM
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Dr Monkey Pants
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: England
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Ash Neck Through Explorer (pic heavy)
So, college wants a project out of me before the end of the academic year, and I've been needing a new guitar for quite a while now, and they have lots of lovely machines for me to make one on so we are all happy.
Specs: neckthrough Body and Neck: Ash Fretboard: Bubinga (Love this stuff) Hipshot Hardtail bridge Bare Knuckle Nailbomb for the bridge and a diy sustainer in the neck Sperzel locking tuners Graphtec Tusq nut I'm also doing a compound radius on the fretboard from 8" to 14" So, Pics! I have none from when the wood was machined to when the fretboard was stuck on, but nevermind... http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/...pg?t=1300910909 I really like this fretboard... http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/...pg?t=1300910909 http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/...pg?t=1300910909 It seems the college has 3 bandsaws, and none of them have sharp blades. Pretty nasty burn from cutting the back of the neck, but hey, its the back of the neck. http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/...pg?t=1300910909 Well, I had no way of cutting the fret slots, and I wasn't paying stewmac 50 quid for a mitre box, so I came up with this thing. Its basically a homemade mitre box that slides up and down the fretboard. It did the job but really needs improvement. Once its on the fretboard you can't see a damn thing that your doing so I had to draw lines with a square from the fret positions and try to line it up from underneath. It turned out ok in the end though. http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/...pg?t=1300910909 Damn photo limit.
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03-23-2011, 04:42 PM
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Dr Monkey Pants
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: England
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http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/...pg?t=1300910909
The clamp holds the depth stop onto the saw, which in this case is a piece of wood. Yeah, don't plane bubinga. or be very careful and use a very sharp plane. http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/...pg?t=1300910909 Autocad Is your friend  http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/...pg?t=1300912507 Sooo, fret positions. I used a digital caliper as well, just forgot to take photos. http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/...pg?t=1300911052 http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/...pg?t=1300911052 http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/...pg?t=1300911052 So far so good... http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/...pg?t=1300911052 http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/...pg?t=1300912507 http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/...pg?t=1300911052
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03-23-2011, 04:45 PM
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Biznatches be cray.
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: PA
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Looks good so far.
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03-23-2011, 05:07 PM
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Dr Monkey Pants
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: England
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Sorry about all the double/triple ect posting
Some pics of my crappy mitre box http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/...pg?t=1300912507 When in doubt, cover up and fix all your mistakes with veneer! http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/...pg?t=1300912507 Unrelated, but I made this grenade the other day too. http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/...pg?t=1300912507 Anyway, Radius sanding is horrible. I'm going to make a router jig for this neck time. http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/...pg?t=1300912872 http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/...pg?t=1300912872 http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/...pg?t=1300912872 Begone, Foul Dust! http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/...pg?t=1300912872 Bandsawed the taper on the fingerboard, this was terrifying. Usual burn from the bandsaw but nm. http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/...pg?t=1300912872 http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/...pg?t=1300912872 It was about this point that I realised I hadn't even thought about inlays or dots. The idea atm is to turn some of the leftover ash from the body on the lathe and use that for the dots, sort of like the necks coming through the fretboard. This isn't going so great atm, all the little bits of ash break. ideas?
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03-23-2011, 05:17 PM
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Luthier
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Brampton Ontario
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maple dots would work well.
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03-23-2011, 05:20 PM
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New Zealand rep!
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Christchurch, New Zealand
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Despite the fact your bandsaw blades there are a bit rubbish, very clean work so far!
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03-23-2011, 06:07 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Ireland
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that is pretty damn good looking! I love working with Ash, it's such a nice wood
 how well does it work as a neck though? ya don't hear of ash necks often.... |
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03-23-2011, 06:11 PM
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Dr Monkey Pants
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: England
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They do see a lot of use, theres about 30 people qualified to used it, including me. I'll try to get some pics of the machines tomorrow. The bandsaw is utterly ginormous.
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03-23-2011, 09:55 PM
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(the return)
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Nr. Manchester, England
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Shame about the saw burn, but some very neat work so far. Nice!
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03-23-2011, 11:44 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Troy, New York
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Almost think you'd be better off using a butter knife... rather than that bandsaw.
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03-24-2011, 12:47 AM
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Subtle Overdrive
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: NSW, Australia
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That workshop looks identical to the one at my old highschool, down to the bench vices and everything.
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03-24-2011, 01:25 PM
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Dr Monkey Pants
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: England
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Well, it seems to be going pretty well so far. Its a nice straight grained piece of wood, and I've heard of some people building bass necks from it so I figured it would be ok, I think the yanks make baseball bats from it too so it should be fairly strong. This is ordinary hard ash mind, not swamp ash. That probably wouldn't make a good neck. Quote:
Maybe they moved your old high school brick by brick to the other side of the world  Seriously though, you high school workshop looked like this? http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/...pg?t=1300986382 Anyway, updates. I tried to find some maple today (thanks Jason) but there was none in a sensible size, so I moved onto a much smaller lathe and had another crack at the ash dots. http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/...pg?t=1300986917 The outcomes. I think you can tell which ones are the good ones and which ones flew off the lathe at 150mph. http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/...pg?t=1300987022 http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/...pg?t=1300987022 http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/...pg?t=1300987022 Ah Picture limit. How I love you.
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03-24-2011, 01:28 PM
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(the return)
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Nr. Manchester, England
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Nice use of the ash there!
I turned some control knobs for mine with some scrap bits of wood but decided against using them in the end. Might dig them out and have another look actually...
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03-24-2011, 01:42 PM
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Dr Monkey Pants
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: England
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I thought at this point I should probably get on with the body, so back to the wood raper itself:
http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/...pg?t=1300987022 http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/...pg?t=1300987022 Body Shape http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/...pg?t=1300987022 http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/...pg?t=1300987022 The pickup wires are going down here, saves me buying a super long drill bit http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/...pg?t=1300987261 http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/...pg?t=1300987793 http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/...pg?t=1300987793 That bottle of glue is the last bit of titebond we have left. I made sure that I got it and didn't have to use PVA. http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/...pg?t=1300987261
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03-24-2011, 01:43 PM
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Dr Monkey Pants
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: England
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I really do take far too many photos...
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I glad that you are reconsidering I can't get the camera to focus on the dots, but the grain of the ash is all pointing in the same direction as the grain in the fretboard. Maybe It'll work better when I sand them down.Look whos got a second bubinga fretboard blank! http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/...pg?t=1300987261 Chiselled out the nut slot today too. Happened to have a chisel of exactly the right size. I love the rare times that happens http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/...pg?t=1300987261 Tuners are it this one too. All the hardware is black http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/...pg?t=1300987261 Sorry about the blurry photo, this is the best I have of the nut. http://i473.photobucket.com/albums/...pg?t=1300987261 No more updates now until monday, cause of the weekend and I get fridays off 
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03-24-2011, 02:03 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Walmington-on-Sea
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Looking good!
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03-24-2011, 02:28 PM
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McNubbin
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Twin Cities
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Looks great so far, but isn't ash in a neck a no-no, and how the hell are you going to negotiate that 1" step down from fretboard to headstock?
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03-24-2011, 03:36 PM
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Dr Monkey Pants
Join Date: Mar 2009
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Why is it a big no no? I wasn't too bothered about that step, but I can build it up with some more layers of ash if its really going to harm things
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03-24-2011, 03:41 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Troy, New York
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That step looks huge. Like a cliff
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03-24-2011, 03:46 PM
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McNubbin
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Twin Cities
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I dont think it's strong enough, Warmoth doesn't offer it as a neck option so I'd personally be a bit concerned.
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