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Old 03-29-2012, 09:59 PM   #1
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Most treble-y J bass pickups?

Hey guys, I need models of bass pickups with a very high treble output. Price is not an issue. Any ideas?
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Active J and put it as near the bridge as possible?
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Old 03-29-2012, 11:33 PM   #3
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Before you buy pickups, try this, I added a .001 cap and to cut some boom (I didn't make it switchable but you might) Also My esquire has a switch option to bypass the tone control completely, these really emphasize the treble qualities and cost at most $4. Might add a out of phase switch too maybe.
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^I'll look into those, but I'd like some new pickups as well for even more brightness.

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Active J and put it as near the bridge as possible?



Should have been more specific, non actives preferred.


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Old 03-30-2012, 09:30 PM   #5
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the seymour duncan quarter pounders are pretty bright sounding.
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^I'll look into those, but I'd like some new pickups as well for even more brightness.




Should have been more specific, non actives preferred.


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passive j as close to the bridge as possible

Come on, just set your amp to a high treble output if you want high treble output.

Why do you want such high amounts of treble anyway?
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Come on, just set your amp to a high treble output if you want high treble output.

Why do you want such high amounts of treble anyway?


This^ what amp and EQ settings you using, and what strings are you using?Do you keep your tone knob maxed to bright?

I can give you a hundred options that will solve your problem better than pickups. I mean if you honestly think the best option for more treble is pickups, I'd think you already knew of a pickup that could do that, and then why would you be asking?

The closet pickup advice I could give you for passive no preamp setup, is not over wound, which eliminates highs.

Edit: Also try a pick?
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Why do you want such high amounts of treble anyway?

J bass, high treble, pick? Punk player maybe? Or afi fan.
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Come on guys, try to be helpful.

For bright pickups you ideally actives but some passives will work to. The more windings a pickup has the brighter the tone but the lower the output (hence active pickups like EMGs using very few windings but boosting the signal with an in built preamp) so might look into lower output pickups. Another option is to get an overwound pickup (like a Seymour Duncan Quarter Pounder) and EQ out the mids.

I would say bite the bullet and get active pickups, they're demonized for no good reason.

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Come on guys, try to be helpful.

For bright pickups you ideally actives but some passives will work to. The more windings a pickup has the brighter the tone but the lower the output (hence active pickups like EMGs using very few windings but boosting the signal with an in built preamp) so might look into lower output pickups. Another option is to get an overwound pickup (like a Seymour Duncan Quarter Pounder) and EQ out the mids.

I would say bite the bullet and get active pickups, they're demonized for no good reason.


I don't know if you were referring to me, but I think I am being helpful if I found him a way to achieve the results he wants at the cost of a on-on switch and a cap or two or an amp/technique tweak.

I don't know much about pickups, but I know they cost more than anything I suggested, maybe it's not what he asked for but it's still helping, not just encouraging him to spend all the money first, when the answer might cost $3 or $0.

Also if still cares about this thread, maybe, he'd elaborate more on his actual bass, amp, playing style, music he's playing etc.
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I dunno, but who cares at this point, I'm sure the Thread starter bought the first pickup named. Or forgot they made the thread.
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Old 04-12-2012, 12:01 PM   #16
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passive j as close to the bridge as possible

Come on, just set your amp to a high treble output if you want high treble output.

Why do you want such high amounts of treble anyway?




Because of the size of the strings/the octave lower than guitar, bass guitars will always be bass heavy/have plenty of low end harmonics. The problem with that is that it's much harder to get a defined note with good attack because of all the low end/mid mud that accumulates. Not just that, but I'm running a Rondomusic J-bass, which don't get me wrong it's pretty amazing, I just need some higher quality pickups because they are too middy. The music we play requires distortion with note definition.



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This^ what amp and EQ settings you using, and what strings are you using?Do you keep your tone knob maxed to bright?

I can give you a hundred options that will solve your problem better than pickups. I mean if you honestly think the best option for more treble is pickups, I'd think you already knew of a pickup that could do that, and then why would you be asking?

The closet pickup advice I could give you for passive no preamp setup, is not over wound, which eliminates highs.

Edit: Also try a pick?



We're using a Gallien Kruger Gold series with the matching 8x10. Low mids around 30%, Hi mids around 60%, Treble around 60%, bass around 30%. It's being pushed by a Sansamp pedal with the presence, treble, and drive high, bass around 35%, and blend around 60/40 clean/dirty. It's still not enough note definiton. We use DR strings. Turning up the treble more will just make it sound spikey. It's more of the 500-1k mids covering the high end, hence the need for a scooped bright pickup. No, I don't know of a pickup that can do that, hence the question.


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J bass, high treble, pick? Punk player maybe? Or afi fan.


We play hardcore punk, and yes I am a fan of the All Hallows EP


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Come on guys, try to be helpful.

For bright pickups you ideally actives but some passives will work to. The more windings a pickup has the brighter the tone but the lower the output (hence active pickups like EMGs using very few windings but boosting the signal with an in built preamp) so might look into lower output pickups. Another option is to get an overwound pickup (like a Seymour Duncan Quarter Pounder) and EQ out the mids.

I would say bite the bullet and get active pickups, they're demonized for no good reason.


Also this, if you have the cash.



Thanks for bringing it back on topic. I don't demonize actives, I'm running an 81/85 EMG in my tele! I just have never had experience with bass actives. I'll look into Actives then, any recommendations?

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I dunno, but who cares at this point, I'm sure the Thread starter bought the first pickup named. Or forgot they made the thread.


I care, I didn't buy any yet, and I just remembered I made this thread
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I just have never had experience with bass actives. I'll look into Actives then, any recommendations?

I love EMG's single and split coil bass pickups (their soapbars are shit though) and Seymour Duncan do actives with practically the same designs. Also, EMGs have the quick connect system which is kind or a love-it-or-hate-it thing on these boards. They'll give you the glassy highs that you tend to hear on solo bass stuff or fusion but at the same time push out enough volume that they're great for rock and metal.

I've had EMG P pickups before and they are the most even an malleable sounding pickups I've ever used, you can do anything you want with it. Oh great, now I'm going to have to buy another one.
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Lol, thanks for the info. I'll see if I can try out a bass with J actives at GC or something. I've also heard good things about Bartolini, any info about those? Essentially the bass tone we're going for is a soul/R&B "slap" tone (super bright, balanced low end, mids are extremely controlled) with Sansamp distortion.
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That description makes me think of Marcus Miller, am I on the right track?
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lolidunno, I'm at work and I can't listen to any clips. Here's a clip of an awesome tone we like.





Notice the balanced consistant non over powering low end, few mids, and extremely defined attack. The pedal used on that album was a Sansamp, so that part is knocked down. Amp was some sort of 8x10, that's covered, and it's still not jangly enough! Need new pickups for sure for that extra 15%.
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