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Old 04-15-2012, 09:19 PM   #21
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In the ''total hack'' category = Jack White hands down.

Also Kirk Hammett... he's wrote some memorable solos in the studio, but live is often sloppy as hell and his tone is just terrible.
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Old 04-16-2012, 02:46 AM   #22
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Also, Jimi Hendrix.


I highly disagree with you. Name another guitarist as influential, original, and innovative. The guy directly and indirectly influenced an entire generation of guitarists. Oh yeah, and his music kicked ass. Saying Jimi Hendrix is overrated is overrated.

Cobain is overrated as a player. However, he is highly influential thats why he usually gets ranked pretty high.

I think Santana is overrated. Granted he's completely original, influential, has a very distinct sound and made great music but he's not very versatile.
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Old 04-16-2012, 09:51 AM   #23
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Old 04-16-2012, 01:22 PM   #24
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Slash is not overrated. try learning a song like paradise city. plus being good at guitar isnt about speed its about how tasteful the music is.

yes, and slash's playing is boring and not tasteful at all.
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Old 04-17-2012, 03:51 PM   #25
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Well, nothing against the guy, he's good, but...Randy Rhoads. Everyone says he's some sort of "master of shred and pioneer of neoclassical" and I mean, sure, he's okay, but I never found anything particularly special about any of his solos except Goodbye To Romance and even on that one, he hits this really ugly out-of-key high bend during it(that said, I love the rest of the solo). Also never really finding anything he did warranting of a "neoclassical" title, there's Dee, okay, but it's 50 seconds. Rush and Black Sabbath had been doing that variety of thing in much greater quantity during the 70s, you don't hear anyone proclaiming Alex Lifeson and Tony Iommi to be kings of neoclassical. xD Again, Rhoads isn't a *bad* guitarist, but...really overrated to me at least.

I never liked Satriani but that's just a personal thing. He can absolutely play, I'm just not particularly a fan of his music.

Finally, I'm not sure if this even counts because I don't know any guitarists who actually like him(just girls who pretend to like metal to get emo boyfriends who just pretend to like metal too, and fangirl over him because he's the only one in the band they know, and the stereotypical 13 year-olds with cheap BC Riches/Deans), but Kerry King. Like...I like me some Slayer, don't get me wrong. But this guy, aside from being able to play power chords really fast(and...well, 90% of the guitarists I know can do that), really doesn't seem to have any knowledge of what a guitar is. The press seems to love him though, and he's got signature freaking everything. Like...C'MON. WHO BUYS THIS STUFF? Hanneman's not exactly a great guitarist either, but he plays circles around Kerry.

Well, I kind of agree with that Randy thing. But you can hear some classical influences on his playing ("Dee", "Revelation" and "Mr. Crowley") that I can't hear in Tony Iommi's playing. He mostly plays E-pentatonic, which sounds great, but I wouldn't consider him as a neo-classical guitarist. Maybe I just haven't heard that much of his playing, but all the solos I have heard him playing have been pretty much pentatonic/blues kind of solos (except "Planet Caravan" that is pretty Jazzy).

But more about Randy... I have started to appreciate his guitar work on the two Ozzy albums after listening to them. I think he is pretty good. But yeah, I agree that he's a bit overrated. Like the solo of "Crazy Train" is nothing special IMO. It's a good solo but it just has that ordinary tapping arpeggios and stuff. Nothing I haven't heard before.

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Slash is not overrated. try learning a song like paradise city. plus being good at guitar isnt about speed its about how tasteful the music is.

Slash's solos might not be extremely difficult but why should they? The solos that guitarists of big bands (like Guns N' Roses and AC/DC) play aren't difficult for them. They must be able to play the solo live without any difficulties. Because if you struggle with playing the solo in the studio, there's no way you could play it live. They don't play the hardest solo they could. Slash is so much better guitarist than almost anybody here in UG (so is Kirk Hammett, Angus Young, etc... almost any guitarist in the well known bands). People must realize that no guitarist shows all of his skills when playing solos. And if you think that you're better than Slash because you can play the solo of "Paradise City" and have been playing for like 4 years, I can only say that you have a lot to learn about guitar. (Yeah, I know, I have been playing for three years but that's why I don't say stupid things like that. I'm not saying that somebody here would say things like that but just had to point out.) I like Slash's groovy playing style but calling him "the best guitarist in the world" is a bit overrated. But I like his guitar work on AFD album.
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Old 04-17-2012, 05:03 PM   #26
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Old 04-17-2012, 09:09 PM   #27
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Definitely Yngwie Malmsteen. The first thing I ever heard from him was called "Arpeggios From Hell". I listen to a couple more tracks and realized that "Arpeggios From Hell" could really describe most of what he does. Technically close to perfect, but that's a skill, not music.
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Old 04-17-2012, 10:06 PM   #28
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Old 04-17-2012, 10:11 PM   #29
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Slash. He hasn't had a good album since AFD. He isn't a bad guitarist, but people act like he's some guitar legend.

Steve Vai. he WAY over uses his tremolo.

Yngwie Malmsteen, alot of his stuff sounds the same, plus he sounds really bad now. Also, he hasn't had a good album since Rising Force, or whatever his first album was called.

Angus Young.

Kirk Hammett, he's just meh.

John Petrucci his alternate picking's amazing, but his music is just bleh.

Edit: Zakk Wylde. He's not that great. His picking hand is horrible.
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Old 04-19-2012, 08:54 PM   #31
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In the ''total hack'' category = Jack White hands down.



Wha-wha-what?! I think creating your own unique tone, sound, and way of handling the guitar is the hardest part of learning guitar. And Jack did this without even leaving the simplicity of the blues. That's pretty sick imo.
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Old 04-19-2012, 11:06 PM   #32
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In the ''total hack'' category = Jack White hands down.

Also Kirk Hammett... he's wrote some memorable solos in the studio, but live is often sloppy as hell and his tone is just terrible.


^This

Never understood all the hubub about Jack White, he's a good player and singer, but you can hear 99% of what he does guitar-wise done better by other older bands.

It irks me that in that "It Might Get Loud Movie" they picked him and the edge to share the spot with Jimmy Page -__- out of ALL the guitarist in the world, them?
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Old 04-19-2012, 11:25 PM   #33
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Never understood all the hubub about Jack White, he's a good player and singer, but you can hear 99% of what he does guitar-wise done better by other older bands.


Who? Not sarcastic, but who reminds you in the past of Jack White today?
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Old 04-19-2012, 11:37 PM   #34
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Who? Not sarcastic, but who reminds you in the past of Jack White today?


Any blues-based classic rock band or blues artists. It's all derivative of that Zeppelin-esque hard blues rock, things that guys like Hendrix did 30 years before his time. Which isn't a bad thing I'm not knocking the guys playing ability, it's just that none of his stuff is really all that innovative, just modern takes on pre-established musical notions.
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Old 04-19-2012, 11:50 PM   #35
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eric f***in clapton. I don't have anything bad to say about him. Just tired of hearing about him.
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Old 04-20-2012, 06:27 PM   #36
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The Edge, without a doubt, he#s nothing without his effects and pedals. Did you see 'It Might Get Loud', He couldn't even play his own song, he was playing a DM when he was suppose to play a C, and in front of Mr White and Mr Page....embarassing.
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Cobain wasnt looked at as a great guitarist, its guitar playing is very intermediate, but his message was his legacy. Lyrically he was a genius.
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Who ever said Kurt Cobain was a great guitarist? I have never in my life heard someone claim Cobain was a great guitarist.
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