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Old 05-16-2012, 07:18 AM   #1
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The Language (learning) thread!

Bem vindo, 欢迎, bienevue, välkommen and welcome to the language thread! I didn't see anything like this around so I thought it would be a fun idea to bring together people who are currently speaking or wanting to learn more languages.

I currently am trying to learn portuguese, arabic and mandarine chinese for work/fun/travel reasons. I'm currently working with a project in Brazil where veeery few people speak English, so that'll be useful. As an archaeologist I'm also interested in a lot of the work being done in China and the middle east, and knowing the languages spoken can't hurt my chances.

Please share languages you know, are learning and your methods!

I'll see about adding different sections for different languages, and perhaps adding who speaks it/wants to learn it/etc

General linguistic online resources:
  • Busuu.com: One of the biggest language learning sites, and is a great language learning resource. Through flashcards, audio, writing exercises, dialogues and more you build up your knowledgebase and understanding. It also has an active community that allows you to join groups, talk to native speakers and have them correct your exercises. It also has mobile apps which are great. The website is very handsome and easy to get started with. This link is a reference link of mine so if you're registering please click that http://www.busuu.com/invite/accept/Mzg0MjUyMw==
  • BBC Languages: What thread would be complete without a BBC link? The BBC website offers an extensive list of languages you can learn, along with facts about the language. The website is clean and easy to maneuver.
  • Google Translate: Good for your translating needs. Has come a long way since first launched. It allows phonetic typing which is great if you don't have a keyboard of the language you want to translate into (like chinese).
  • Livemocha is a website I have found useful. I have heard that it is similar to busuu but not quite as good (though it offers tons of languages). (courtesy of TheCD)
  • My language exchange <-- That's another good site for learning. You exchange languages with other people through email. (courtesy of -Annihilation-)

Additional resources:
  • For those using firefox or chrome, there are several extensions to help you translate text by just hovering above it, or other exstensions which help. I'm using the pop-up translate thing while learning chinese, which *really* helps.
  • Some asian symbols won't show up on some computers. If so, click here for support.

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  • No illegal material in this thread
  • Try to keep this mainly in English as this is an English speaking forum. It might be difficult if you want something translated or have questions about things, but let's try our best.
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Old 05-16-2012, 07:18 AM   #2
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Levels are (learning) -> (beginner) -> (intermediate) -> (expert) ->(native)

Language speakers:

Arabic
  • Kensai (learning)
  • ali.guitarkid7
  • sakura'sdarkest (learning)

Chinese (Mandarin)
  • Kensai (learning)
  • Gorelord666 (learning)
  • raoooos (learning)
  • Harmonius (native)

Chinese (Hong Kong Cantonese)
  • Harmonius (native)

Chinese (Hakka)
  • Harmonius (native)

Dutch:
  • Lord_Doku (native)
  • TheCD (learning)
  • Antis0cial (native)

English:
  • Kensai (native)
  • akack (native)
  • Gorelord666 (native)
  • ZombieCran (native)
  • Lord_Doku (expert)
  • ErikLensherr (native)
  • TheCD (native)
  • Extra Ordinary (native)
  • Telecaster7 (native)
  • Pi! (native)
  • VillainousLatin (expert)
  • JamSessionFreak (expert)
  • TheTones (native)
  • S0n1c '97 (native)
  • gabcd86 (native)
  • NothingRocks (native)
  • solo_freak (native)
  • guitarxo (native)
  • MAC2322 (native)
  • Antis0cial (native)
  • MiG_853 (native)
  • Cb4rabid (native)
  • Bushinarin (native)
  • sakura'sdarkest (expert)
  • Philip_pepper (native)

French:
  • ZombieCran (beginner)
  • spitonastranger (beginner)
  • ali.guitarkid7 (?)
  • CrimsonBizzare (beginner)
  • isabiggles (intermediate)
  • JamSessionFreak (learning)
  • N_J_B_B (learning)
  • gabcd86 (native)
  • solo_freak (intermediate)
  • MAC2322 (learning)
  • Antis0cial (beginner)
  • MiG_853 (beginner)
  • sakura'sdarkest (native)
  • sakura'sdarkest (learning)

German:
  • Kensai (beginner)
  • Weirdbag (native)
  • Telecaster7 (beginner)
  • EvilDomo (learning)
  • Antis0cial (intermediate)
  • Philip_pepper (native)

Hebrew:
  • TheTee56

Hindi:
  • akack (native)

Italian:
  • Gorelord666 (intermediate)
  • isabiggles (intermediate)
  • Basti95 (NATIVE!!)
  • JamSessionFreak (learning)
  • solo_freak (native)
  • MAC2322 (learning)
  • MiG_853 (beginner)

Japanese
  • TheTones (learning)
  • EvilDomo (learning)
  • NothingRocks (learning)
  • Wesleyisgay
  • Antis0cial (learning)
  • sakura'sdarkest (learning)

Korean:
  • chaoticfables (native)

Latin:
  • CrimsonBizzare (beginner)
  • AeroRocker

Portuguese:
  • Kensai (beginner - learning)
  • gabcd86 (native/beginner)
  • MiG_853 (native)
  • Ometh (native)
  • Ippon (learning)
  • Philip_pepper (native)

Romanian:
  • DonGlover (learning)

Russian:
  • Dash49 (native)
  • S0n1c '97 (learning)
  • loose bowels (learning)
  • sakura'sdarkest (learning)

Slovene:
  • JamSessionFreak (native)

Spanish:
  • Gorelord666 (native)
  • ZombieCran (native)
  • ErikLensherr (native)
  • damian_91 (native)
  • Pi! (intermediate)
  • VillainousLatin (native)
  • S0n1c '97 (learning)
  • gabcd86 (expert)
  • guitarxo (beginner)
  • MAC2322 (native)
  • Antis0cial (intermediate - learning)
  • MiG_853 (expert)
  • Cb4rabid (expert)
  • Bushinarin (beginner)
  • Ippon (learning)
  • Philip_pepper (intermediate)

Swedish:
  • Kensai (native)
  • loose bowels (learning)
  • Bushinarin (intermediate)

Tamil:
  • guitarxo (beginner)
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Old 05-16-2012, 07:19 AM   #3
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Japanese:
  • Obenkyo - This is basically your one-stop shop for hiragana, katakana, numbers, and kanji. It also has an extensive range of basic grammar lessons. If your phone/tablet comes with a stylus, you can even try practising the strokes for all the symbols. You can use the stroke practise functionality without a stylus too, though. (courtesy of hriday_hazarika)
  • JED - This is perhaps the best Japanese-English dictionary app I have come across. You can search by English, romaji, kana, and kanji. It has a huge list of words, and every entry has the kanji, kana, general style of usage [polite/casual speech], verb formations, and example sentences. Definitely a must-have. Make sure you're on a Wi-Fi connection or have a good data plan before you download this, since the dictionary is in excess of 100 MB, IIRC. But, the good thing is, once you download it, you can use it even if you don't have any Internet on your phone. (Courtesy of hriday_hazarika)

Korean:
Latin:
  • Cambridge School Classics Project - Cambridge Latin Course
    It has all of the stories from the course books - you can translate specific words just by clicking on them (for Book V, it also tells you grammatical information regarding the tense and such). There are vocabulary tests and other activities. There are also links to pages on the cultural background. It's free to use, but it doesn't contain the lessons on grammar, words, or cultural background from the books. There are also no further activities on the stories - it just has the stories themselves. You can buy the books or E-learning materials (only for the first 2 books, I think) from the site as well.
    There's also some resources for Ancient Greek on the site, from Eton College:
    http://www.cambridgescp.com/page.php?p=ag^Eton^intro
    Some further free Ancient Greek resources here:
    Dr. Shirley
    Open University (courtesy of CrimsonBizarre)

Mandarine chinese:
  • Chinese dictionary: It has mirrors of translators, but also explains each word individually, making it easy to check the correctness of the translation. (courtesy of SLEESTAK_BRO)
  • http://www.nciku.com/ If you find a character you don't know, you can draw it and it'll detect it 99% of the time (if using a physical dictionary ain't yo thang). Lots of example sentences too. (courtesy of raoooos)
  • http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/dictionary Just type in any Chinese character and if you're unsure of the pronunciation, listen to the same on Google Translate. Further explanation done well by Harmonius can be found here. (Courtesy of Harmonius).
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Old 05-16-2012, 07:21 AM   #4
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There was another language in there, forget which one. Learned something about that when I was about eight or so.
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I'm actually pretty interested in learning German. I might check out that busuu website
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Old 05-16-2012, 07:22 AM   #6
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I know Spanish pretty much fluently, used to be completely fluent but I've lost practice since moving away. Same with german, used to know it to DaF C1 but I've forgotten a lot.

Currently considering teaching myself Mandarin and Polish.
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Old 05-16-2012, 07:25 AM   #7
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I'm actually pretty interested in learning German. I might check out that busuu website


Feel free to, I think it's very easy to learn using that site

Oh and if you do, let me know if you did so I can see if the reference thing works.
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Portuguese is hard to learn right? Just came back from Brazil and normally I don't have a problem learning the language a bit during a holiday but with portuguese.... I still can't pronounce não
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Old 05-16-2012, 07:30 AM   #9
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A couple of questions that will determine whether or not I will learn a new language,


Do I need french in Canada?
Do I need norwegian in Norway?

Other than that, I know russian, english and estonian.
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Old 05-16-2012, 07:31 AM   #10
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Old 05-16-2012, 07:32 AM   #11
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A couple of questions that will determine whether or not I will learn a new language,


Do I need french in Canada?

Do I need norwegian in Norway?

Other than that, I know russian, english and estonian.

Not unless you are going to be in Quebec. Even so, the vast majority of people there can speak fluent english
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Feel free to, I think it's very easy to learn using that site

Oh and if you do, let me know if you did so I can see if the reference thing works.

Just signed up for it

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Old 05-16-2012, 07:32 AM   #12
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Portuguese is hard to learn right? Just came back from Brazil and normally I don't have a problem learning the language a bit during a holiday but with portuguese.... I still can't pronounce não

I heard it was somewhat like "no" but said in a slight different manner.
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Old 05-16-2012, 07:32 AM   #13
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Not unless you are going to be in Quebec. Even so, the vast majority of people there can speak fluent english


Well that's actually the least important question of two, I'm much more interested in Norway.

I did suspect I wouldn't need it there though, thanks.
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Oh you're an archaeologist? That's great cause,

I have a very large bone for you to examine.

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Well that's actually the least important question of two, I'm much more interested in Norway.

I did suspect I wouldn't need it there though, thanks.



You don't really need Norwegian in Norway, but it would probably help a lot.
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I'm planning on trying to learn a bit of Japanese over the summer. Even though this thread was made just so you could get bonuses from that busuu site, it worked. Just signed up.
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Old 05-16-2012, 07:36 AM   #18
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I'm going to start taking Mandarin classes this fall for my degree field and I know enough German to get by. I've found that having a native speaker as a friend is invaluable and superior to any flashcards, websites, etc that you'll find. Just try skyping with someone who speaks the language you're learning.



My accent in Mandarin is going to be so bad.

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This is a great resource for learning Chinese if you want to add it to the OP. It has mirrors of translators, but also explains each word individually, making it easy to check the correctness of the translation.
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If everyone is up for, I can add people to the second post according to their linguistic skill levels and what they want to learn. Such as:

English:
- Kensai (native)

Swedish:
- Kensai (native)

Portuguese
- Kensai (beginner)

Mandarine chinese:
- Kensai (learning)


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Portuguese is hard to learn right? Just came back from Brazil and normally I don't have a problem learning the language a bit during a holiday but with portuguese.... I still can't pronounce não

I thought Portuguese was very easy to learn; when I arrived in Brazil I barely knew a sentence, but in a month I learned enough to communicate with everyone about a lot of things.

Then again dutch pronouncations are so very far from portuguese

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A couple of questions that will determine whether or not I will learn a new language,


Do I need french in Canada?
Do I need norwegian in Norway?

Other than that, I know russian, english and estonian.


It's incredibly useful to know norwegian in norway, even though most people speak english in various degrees.

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Just signed up for it

Ah sweet. Hasn't shown up yet but maybe in a while

edit:just showed up!

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Oh you're an archaeologist? That's great cause,

I have a very large bone for you to examine.

lul


What kind of bone?
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Wouldn't you like to know.
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Just singed up for that Busuu website, going to try and learn Chinese. I love how they try to incorporate the languages you say you know into a part.
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Old 05-16-2012, 07:47 AM   #24
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This is a great resource for learning Chinese if you want to add it to the OP. It has mirrors of translators, but also explains each word individually, making it easy to check the correctness of the translation.

Added to the third post

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Wouldn't you like to know.

Not sure if would >.>
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I'm going to start taking Mandarin classes this fall for my degree field and I know enough German to get by. I've found that having a native speaker as a friend is invaluable and superior to any flashcards, websites, etc that you'll find. Just try skyping with someone who speaks the language you're learning.

My accent in Mandarin is going to be so bad.

Of course, but not everyone does and you need to start somewhere

And yeah, mine too... chinese words sound so similar and I just know I'm going to make an ass out of myself when speaking.

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Just singed up for that Busuu website, going to try and learn Chinese. I love how they try to incorporate the languages you say you know into a part.



Let me know if you need any help with it.
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Old 05-16-2012, 07:55 AM   #25
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Of course, but not everyone does and you need to start somewhere

And yeah, mine too... chinese words sound so similar and I just know I'm going to make an ass out of myself when speaking.



Yeah. I was seeing this girl for a while and she and her little sisters both spoke mandarin. Her 5-year-old sister tried to teach me some once and it went a bit like this:

Her: Ok, now say 'wu'
Me: What does that mean?
Her: It means five!
Me: Wu...
Her: NO, YOU JUST SAID WATER!
Me: T_T

A 5-year-old was getting frustrated with me learning too slow.
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Old 05-16-2012, 08:17 AM   #26
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I've signed onto the busuu website, I've been trying to learn french for a while now I've got mobile phone apps, I've been watching youtube videos and reading random articles over the web and none of them really motivate me so hopefully this does the job.
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Old 05-16-2012, 08:21 AM   #27
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Old 05-16-2012, 08:21 AM   #28
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Yeah. I was seeing this girl for a while and she and her little sisters both spoke mandarin. Her 5-year-old sister tried to teach me some once and it went a bit like this:

Her: Ok, now say 'wu'
Me: What does that mean?
Her: It means five!
Me: Wu...
Her: NO, YOU JUST SAID WATER!
Me: T_T

A 5-year-old was getting frustrated with me learning too slow.

Part of the reason I want to learn it to be honest. The reliance on intonation makes it such a unique sounding language.
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Old 05-16-2012, 08:33 AM   #30
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I'm learning Japanese right now.

I'm fluent in English and Assamese, and I'm alright/I can manage day-to-day things in Hindi. Also, since it's quite similar to Assamese, I can understand Bengali somewhat, but I don't know how to speak it.

There are lots of resources online for Japanese. Even a quick Google search turns up lots of useful stuff.

I also bought a dictionary of Japanese grammar a few months back, and it's pretty damn useful. On my phone, I have a J-E dictionary app that has many, many words with their kanji, kana, and, romaji forms, so that's been a huge help too. You should really get if you're on an Android phone.

I can only manage a few basic sentences so far, and I recognize a few kanji/kana, but I haven't been studying the language a lot lately, since my exams are right around the corner. Once they're over, I'll be studying Japanese pretty heavily, since watching anime and reading manga aren't marketable skills.

If anyone else here is learning Japanese, we can exchange resources and stuff, if you'd like. I know James [NothingRocks] is learning Japanese. Anyone else?
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Old 05-16-2012, 09:27 AM   #33
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I took two years of German in high school. I still remember some but have lost some since.

I'm trying to learn Japanese. Making some progress verbally, but the Kana are tough.
(currently only working on Hiragana and Katakana. Kanji looks a bit daunting for now)
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i was thinking of learning french over the summer, starting when i get back from kenya mid-july
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Yeah. I was seeing this girl for a while and she and her little sisters both spoke mandarin. Her 5-year-old sister tried to teach me some once and it went a bit like this:

Her: Ok, now say 'wu'
Me: What does that mean?
Her: It means five!
Me: Wu...
Her: NO, YOU JUST SAID WATER!
Me: T_T

A 5-year-old was getting frustrated with me learning too slow.

Haha, well chinese people are used to a higher learning pace.

I'm aching to use my chinese in one of the restaurants around here, but I have to learn more about the pronounciation so I don't accidentally wildly insult everyone in the restaurant and China while speaking.

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I'm learning Japanese right now.

I'm fluent in English and Assamese, and I'm alright/I can manage day-to-day things in Hindi. Also, since it's quite similar to Assamese, I can understand Bengali somewhat, but I don't know how to speak it.

There are lots of resources online for Japanese. Even a quick Google search turns up lots of useful stuff.

I also bought a dictionary of Japanese grammar a few months back, and it's pretty damn useful. On my phone, I have a J-E dictionary app that has many, many words with their kanji, kana, and, romaji forms, so that's been a huge help too. You should really get if you're on an Android phone.

I can only manage a few basic sentences so far, and I recognize a few kanji/kana, but I haven't been studying the language a lot lately, since my exams are right around the corner. Once they're over, I'll be studying Japanese pretty heavily, since watching anime and reading manga aren't marketable skills.

If anyone else here is learning Japanese, we can exchange resources and stuff, if you'd like. I know James [NothingRocks] is learning Japanese. Anyone else?


If you want me to add any resources to the third post let me know the names and links and and a short description and I'll add it

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i was thinking of learning french over the summer, starting when i get back from kenya mid-july


Ah cool, what will you do in kenya?
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Ah cool, what will you do in kenya?

going to nairobi specifically, and will be staying with a lovely and reliable gentleman i've been exchanging emails with by the name of joseph. he owns an orphanage called havilla foundations, and i'll be over there volunteering! should be a blast. you're welcome to come along, i'm great fun.
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I want to learn Russian

I made it a point to study a week or two ago but I've been keeping up with it.... none at all. But I can still remember the basic grammar rules. Perfective, gender possesive... I think that's it. One of the examples I read was in Russian was "Could you pass the salt please?". Direct translation would be something like "Give salt please", which really helped eliminate all the baggage that comes with learning a new language.

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