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Old 05-16-2012, 12:39 PM   #81
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I've got the tapes for Pimsleur Polish. Through about 3 of them now. My last name is polish, figured I might as well. Thought about learning russian, but didn't want to dive straight into learning the Crylic alphabet.
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Old 05-16-2012, 12:42 PM   #82
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My brother (interning in Germany, knows very little German) just sent me this:


"i walked into my boss' boss' boss' office because a colleague of mine said the former had the eggs necessary to cook the Maultaschen for lunch. i walked in and for some reason decided to talk german because i didnt know if he speaks english. and just said 'hast du eier' which literally means do you have the eggs. but he had a shocked look on his face and then people started laughing. apparently in german it's the equivalent of walking into your boss' boss' boss' office and saying 'GOT BALLS?'.

shit."


I know this thread isn't for shit like this, but can any German speaker please confirm this is true?
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Old 05-16-2012, 12:44 PM   #83
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Okay, I can tell learning Japanese is going to be a daunting task. I just tried working out how to write hello in katakana by doing it phonetically, and ended up with something that was nothing like the actual way of writing it.

Also, how do you know which script to use for certain words? So if I wanted to write hello, would it be Hiragana or Katakana? Or Kanji?


Kanji can be called the "main" script of the three scripts. For words that don't have Kanji characters, or for different grammar forms, Hiragana is used. Of course, it goes much deeper than that, but that's the general idea.

Katakana is used for foreign-language loandwords like terebi [television] and pasokon [personal computer]. Katakana is also used to write names. Now, names are always written in Kanji [with a few exceptions, when the parents don't want to use Kanji], but since there are many ways to pronounce even a single Kanji, naming can get a bit ambiguous. So, on things like business cards, people usually write their name alongside the Kanji in Katakana, so that it's clear to the receiver as to what the pronunciation is.

As for saying "hallo", there are many ways. You can simply say "hallo", but in a Japanese accent, which would be "ha-ro". Since that's a loanword, you write it in Katakana. It'd look like this - ハロ

In "proper" Japanese, one usually says "konnichiwa". Now, greeting people according to the time of day is very important, so there isn't a direct translation to "hallo" as such. So, depending on the time of day, you can say different things. But, "konnichiwa" is generally accepted as an appropriate way of saying hallo to someone.

Since "konnichiwa" is a native Japanese word, but doesn't have a Kanji, you're expected to write it in Hiragana - こんにちは

You'll notice that I've written the "wa" as "ha". There's an explanation to that. In Japanese, the marker "wa" is written as "ha", but pronounced "wa". Silly, I know. But, that's just the way it is.

"Konnichiwa" is essentially "konnichi" [today] and "wa" [is]. So, yeah, when you're saying hallo to someone, you're literally saying "today is".
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Old 05-16-2012, 12:50 PM   #84
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Old 05-16-2012, 12:55 PM   #88
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This is supposed to be a nifty site, but it's currently in closed beta. Might want to throw it in the OP anyway.
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Old 05-16-2012, 01:04 PM   #89
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Kanji can be called the "main" script of the three scripts. For words that don't have Kanji characters, or for different grammar forms, Hiragana is used. Of course, it goes much deeper than that, but that's the general idea.

Katakana is used for foreign-language loandwords like terebi [television] and pasokon [personal computer]. Katakana is also used to write names. Now, names are always written in Kanji [with a few exceptions, when the parents don't want to use Kanji], but since there are many ways to pronounce even a single Kanji, naming can get a bit ambiguous. So, on things like business cards, people usually write their name alongside the Kanji in Katakana, so that it's clear to the receiver as to what the pronunciation is.

As for saying "hallo", there are many ways. You can simply say "hallo", but in a Japanese accent, which would be "ha-ro". Since that's a loanword, you write it in Katakana. It'd look like this - ハロ

In "proper" Japanese, one usually says "konnichiwa". Now, greeting people according to the time of day is very important, so there isn't a direct translation to "hallo" as such. So, depending on the time of day, you can say different things. But, "konnichiwa" is generally accepted as an appropriate way of saying hallo to someone.

Since "konnichiwa" is a native Japanese word, but doesn't have a Kanji, you're expected to write it in Hiragana - こんいちは

You'll notice that I've written the "wa" as "ha". There's an explanation to that. In Japanese, the marker "wa" is written as "ha", but pronounced "wa". Silly, I know. But, that's just the way it is.

"Konnichiwa" is essentially "konnichi" [today] and "wa" [is]. So, yeah, when you're saying hallo to someone, you're literally saying "today is".

Wow you are really helpful I was trying to write out konnichiwa in Hiragana, but I couldn't find the symbol for chi on the app I was using so I tried in Katakana instead. Now that I've checked again, I see it straight away in the Hiragana section though

If I did use わ (wa) instead of は (ha), would that make the word different?
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Old 05-16-2012, 01:04 PM   #90
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My brother (interning in Germany, knows very little German) just sent me this:


"i walked into my boss' boss' boss' office because a colleague of mine said the former had the eggs necessary to cook the Maultaschen for lunch. i walked in and for some reason decided to talk german because i didnt know if he speaks english. and just said 'hast du eier' which literally means do you have the eggs. but he had a shocked look on his face and then people started laughing. apparently in german it's the equivalent of walking into your boss' boss' boss' office and saying 'GOT BALLS?'.

shit."


I know this thread isn't for shit like this, but can any German speaker please confirm this is true?


In Spanish, they use their word for eggs (huevos) to mean balls. Maybe it's the same in German?

I am a native English speaker and I speak OK Spanish.
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Old 05-16-2012, 01:07 PM   #92
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http://duolingo.com/

This is supposed to be a nifty site, but it's currently in closed beta. Might want to throw it in the OP anyway.

Not too crazy about putting a website currently in closed beta that no one has tried in the OP. I signed up for chinese but it's still on "coming soon". The background looks similar to busuu's for that matter!
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Wow you are really helpful I was trying to write out konnichiwa in Hiragana, but I couldn't find the symbol for chi on the app I was using so I tried in Katakana instead. Now that I've checked again, I see it straight away in the Hiragana section though

If I did use わ (wa) instead of は (ha), would that make the word different?


Thanks, man. Let me know if you need any other help. It's not like I know much either, but I'll try to help to the best of my abilities.

Most people would understand if you used わ instead of は, but like I said, it's a rule, and you have to follow it. Keep in mind that the wa-ha transformation only applies if wa is being used as a marker to something, for example: "watashi wa AnAngrySquirrel desu", which shall be written as "watashi ha AnAngrySquirrel desu" [notice how the "wa" in "watashi" doesn't change to "ha"]. Suppose you want to write something like watashi or wasabi in Hiragana, you have to use the regular wa.

Also, on the subject of casually greeting people, lots of young Japanese people also say things like "yo" or "yahoo" [I know it's strange to say "yahoo" to someone as a greeting, but some girls do say this, lol; it's actually more of a yah-haw sound, kinda hard to pin it without using phonetics] to say hallo to someone, so you can use those terms too. Since they're loanwords, you're expected to write them in Katakana, but no one will mind if you write them in Hiragana, so feel free to use either one.
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Oh, I get it, you're trying to streamline all the traffic through your little busuu reference link even if it's at the cost of impeding the learning of the fine members of the pit. Don't think you'll get away with this; you may be able to silence me but sooner or later the truth will come out and the people will revolt.
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Thanks, man. Let me know if you need any other help. It's not like I know much either, but I'll try to help to the best of my abilities.

Most people would understand if you used わ instead of は, but like I said, it's a rule, and you have to follow it. Keep in mind that the wa-ha transformation only applies if wa is being used as a marker to something, for example: "watashi wa AnAngrySquirrel desu", which shall be written as "watashi ha AnAngrySquirrel desu" [notice how the "wa" in "watashi" doesn't change to "ha"]. Suppose you want to write something like watashi or wasabi in Hiragana, you have to use the regular wa.

Also, on the subject of casually greeting people, lots of young Japanese people also say things like "yo" or "yahoo" [I know it's strange to say "yahoo" to someone as a greeting, but some girls do say this, lol; it's actually more of a yah-haw sound, kinda hard to pin it without using phonetics] to say hallo to someone, so you can use those terms too. Since they're loanwords, you're expected to write them in Katakana, but no one will mind if you write them in Hiragana, so feel free to use either one.

Right, that makes sense. Thanks a lot
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