ChemicalFire

If I thought it was worth covering it would be on there, truth is I've not heard good things. I've got to limit what I write to what I've experience or what I've heard from sources I trust.

The best I've heard, is "meh, it's okay". But I may look into it and see what I can find.

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wrzkace13

Thanks for the heads up on the interface's

jpatan

I recently picked up a copy of Reason 6.5, and I'm getting a pretty good amount of latency when I rewire it into Reaper. I get practically zero latency when I use either program alone, but when I rewire it seems like I'm hitting close to 200ms, which makes it pretty much unuseable.

After reading through the manuals, it seems that my interface may be the culprit. Like it isn't capable of handling that much data at once or something.

I'm using a Boss BR-800 multi track recorder as an interface. The drivers are up to date, and I'm using the ASIO setting in reaper. I bought the BR-800 for recording outside of home plus the ability to use it as an interface, but the reality is that it hasn't left my house once.

I could probably sell the BR-800 and get at least $300-350 with the condition it's in (mint), and the upgraded memory card I put in it. I was looking at the Propellerhead "Balance" interface, but it's awfully expensive ($450), and only comes bundled with Reason essentials... which I don't need... but I COULD also sell the software license and end up breaking about even. I really like the way you can plug multiple instruments / mics into the back, and select which input you want on the front panel. I have 2 mics and 2 instrument cables that I use pretty frequently, and would prefer to not have to constantly swap them around. I guess a 4 I/O interface would also work, but I don't really need all 4 at once.

TL;DR - Anyone know of any good USB interfaces that have switchable inputs, 2 I/O, that are around $300 or less?

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GaryBillington

Although the BR800 can be used as an interface, that isn't it's prime function.

Have you considered switching to a Zoom R8/16/24? The 8 only has 2 interfaces, but the 16 & 24 both have 8 interfaces and because it's designed to be used as an interface that should remove any latency issues - I've read loads of reviews on it and don't remember that being mentioned as a problem.

It uses USB to connect to your software DAW, it has the inputs you need, it's within your budget and you'd still have the option of portable recording should you need it in the future.

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jpatan

I'd actually like to ditch the external recorder. I've only ever used it as an interface to record in Reaper, which it does fine as long as I don't also rewire Reason (which I'll pretty much be doing all the time).

Is it possible that my latency is MIDI related? When I program a MIDI item within reaper, it plays the Reason virtual instrument with no latency. When I use my MIDI keyboard (which is plugged into the PC, not the interface) I get latency. But again, only when I rewire. Doesn't seem like it should matter, but

The manual for Reason is pretty clear on latency. Basically if you get it when rewiring, you have one of the following:

1- slow computer - not the case
2- Bad ASIO drivers / settings - also not likely
3- Host program unable to handle it - youtube videos prove reaper can handle Reason without issue
4- Interface - Seems the most likely thing to me, considering that my interface isn't exactly a "real" interface... it's a recorder with interface function.

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GaryBillington

From the potential issues you listed it seems like the most probable issue would be the BR800 as it isn't a dedicated interface, BUT (I'm about to enter territory I'm not familiar with here, so this could be a lack of knowledge) from what you said in the rest of your post it sounds like you're only getting the latency when you aren't using the interface so surely the problem must be elsewhere?

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jpatan

No, I'm using the interface all the time. Any recordings I do through it directly into reaper are fine, and any MIDI keys playing through Reason alone is basically latency free... It's only when I rewire Reason into the DAW that I get bad latency. And both programs are set to use the BR-800 as the ASIO device.

Basically I have to start a project in Reason, and get most of it patterned out... drums, virtual bass, any ambient synthy stuff. Just kinda figure out what I want to do with it. Then I have to open my rewire template and import all the midi so it plays the VSTi's in reaper. But once I get to this stage, I really can't play anything through reason real time due to the latency. Sometimes it feels like I'm nearly half a second behind the key press.

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Duncan Gibbons

i know you said avoid the adapter, but how would i make it work? i just want to test my guitar with that and then i will buy a amp
PPLS help i cant get any real sound

ChemicalFire

Sorry man, I can't tell you that, simply because I don't know. I don't see how people get it to work save some kind of miracle.

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jpatan

The only way I ever got an adapter to work was by getting one to step the 1/4" instrument cable jack down to the 1/8" mic or aux input on the soundcard. Your results will vary depending on how good your soundcard and PC are.

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lockwolf

You have to buy a mixer to go inbetween. The guitar straight by itself will kill your mic in port. With a mixer before it, you can lower the volume and fix some of the signal.

Though, honestly, its a waste of money and it doesn't sound good and we aren't going to help you if you break your computer.

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Duncan Gibbons

ok thanks, then ill save for the guitar link or behringer ucg102

danmetal2012

Hey, will this thing do the trick?
http://www.gak.co.uk/en/yamaha-audi...ubase-ai4/31486
I dont intend to use the copy of cubase it comes with so it doesnt make the deal any better, but theres some going on ebay pretty cheap, will it actualy make any difference compared to that behringer ucg102?

ChemicalFire

Added a section about DAW's written by Lockwolf.

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Edward1892

http://www.thomann.de/gb/maudio_ess...ding_studio.htm

I want to buy this recording interface, does anyone know if it is a decent quality one?

Thanks!

ChemicalFire

They get a pretty mixed rep around here, but I do hear there are a few problems with it.

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lockwolf

I wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole. Low end M-Audio is pretty bad

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DardoBoy

Now what are your recommendations for making more electronic music?

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ChemicalFire

In what sense? You don't need an interface if you just want to program midi.

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