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Old 06-29-2015, 03:16 PM   #1
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Composition Challenge! Screwing Your Friends Over, One Nursery Rhyme At A Time!

How's it going MT.

This thread is brought to you from the minds of Jet, Duane and Golden Guitar, as both a reaction against the last few days of thread-age, and the fact that we need to do something new again.

It's time for another composition challenge!

THE CHALLENGE:

We are going to write a collective theme and variations on this bad boy:

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We are going to use the form A A B A.

So in reference to that image, you will do the first line twice, then the next two lines. When your turn comes up, you re-write a variation of the melody.

THE CATCH:

Every time someone does a variation, they get to make up a rule that MUST be followed by the previous composer. So, whoever does the first variation will have a lot of freedom, but the subsequent composers will have an increasing list of demands they have to meet, until the last person who has to follow every restriction.

This will force us all to be creative, as we effectively screw each other over with each iteration a la Mario Party.

THE PROCESS:

-Sign up here, and I'll randomize the names as usual.
-We go down the line, adding rules and taking turns writing until it's done.
-Jet edits them all into one piece.

We can also (read: we should) make all the rules first so everyone can write at once, so this doesn't take a month like the EC projects did.

-When you make a rule, you cannot make any restriction that is game breaking/global (like "every note must be C", "every note must be more than an octave apart" ), and you cannot create a rule that prevents the fulfillment of a previous rule.

-A good example of a valid non-global rule would be, "every 3rd note must be on the upbeat", or, "you have to repeat one pitch every 10 notes"

THE CATCH'S CATCH:

Jet's computer USB's are broken, so he's running at diminished capacity here, and he wants to play. So:

I will be taking on the role of the 5th horseman of the apocalypse, Chaos itself.

If you submit a piece, I'm going to look at it before adding it to the chain. If you violate any of the restrictions or rules, I am going to VIOLENTLY EDIT THE LIVING SHIT out of your piece until it's a fair submission, and you have zero say as to what surgery I work on your new child. You won't even know about it until I reveal the final piece.

LET'S DO THIS THING!

Sign up below (suggest a rule at the same time), I'm going to double post for the order and rules, as usual, and we can get the ball rolling here. Go Team!

P.S.

THE FIRST RULE: MONOPHONY.

You get one melody line and nothing else. Make it count.
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Old 06-29-2015, 03:18 PM   #2
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The Order:

#0: Jet Penguin, Chaos Incarnate
#1: Kevatuhri, Seeker Of Banjos
#2: MaggaraMarine, Bass Warlord
#3: Duaneclapdrix, Inspirator of Challenge
#4: The 4th Horseman, Like Chaos, But Death-ier
#5: 20T, Jet's Less Angry, But Equally Handsome Half
#6: Sean0913, The Lone Ranger
#7: NeoMvsEu, Mistress of Chordage
#8: CelestialGuitar, Cosmic Genie
#9: RonaldPoe, The Most Polarizing Man On MT
#10: Golden Guitar, The Thunder From Down Under


The Rules

-Whatever your number in The Order is, you are following that rule number and ALL the rules prior.

#0: Monophony. One melody allowed, make it count.
#1: Every iteration needs a number of accidentals PER SECTION equal to the iteration #.
#2: At LEAST one section must end with a BADASS blues cliche
#3: The last note in every even #'d measure can't be used to imply any tonal progression.
#4: The B section must contain a phrase made from the whole tone scale.
#5: You must have a sequence with at LEAST 4 segments.
#6: You must have ten tritone leaps.
#7: Every other bar needs syncopation.
#8: Every section (AABA) must contain odd note note groupings
#9: Two phrases (not sections) of extremely wide intervals split with rests
#10: Every 5th note is the upbeat of a quarter note (To hell with quaver) Triplet

-You don't need to wait your turn, just defer to this post and you can start writing as soon as we have the rules set!
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Old 06-29-2015, 03:24 PM   #3
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Well, I'm certainly interested. And I think I should have time for this as well. I hope.

But I also have to think of a rule... how about having to add a sharp or a flat to the key signature (and use the affected tone as well)? I don't have experience in UG contests so I might say something that's retarted, bear with me
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Old 06-29-2015, 03:31 PM   #4
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^Right track, but that's a global rule that's gonna affect the entire thing. If you can find a way to modify that, we're good.

Maybe like, "each turn, the minimum amount of required accidentals increases by 1.

I'll sign you up though, you got time to brainstorm.
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Old 06-29-2015, 03:38 PM   #5
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Right. How about having to use an altered tone per line? Or am I making it worse?

Bear with me, please. Internet is scary.


EDIT: I'm fine with your iteration of the rule, I just wanted to get some accidentals rolling.
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Old 06-29-2015, 03:41 PM   #6
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Can I join with the demand of syncopation? Or is that a bit too demanding for the remainder of a song?
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Old 06-29-2015, 03:47 PM   #7
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^No global stuff.

You could do "every X amount of Y needs syncopation"
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Old 06-29-2015, 04:16 PM   #8
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Every two measures of the original song needs to have at least one syncopated rhythm.

That sounds a lot nicer
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Old 06-29-2015, 04:21 PM   #9
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It's too early for me to join. Let me wait until a few others have joined first.
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Old 06-29-2015, 05:18 PM   #10
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Yes, I will join the thread that was inspired by me.

Thanks for the shout out in the op
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Old 06-29-2015, 05:38 PM   #11
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^Shit, sorry. Edited.
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Old 06-29-2015, 05:56 PM   #12
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Old 06-29-2015, 06:02 PM   #13
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Old 06-29-2015, 09:02 PM   #14
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Every OTHER melody note has to be a tritone away from it's usual location. Thats gonna be my rule.

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Old 06-29-2015, 09:09 PM   #15
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^Lol you could just write anything and claim a m2 going up is a maj7 leap in the opposite direction.

Perhaps we amend it to "you need X amount of tritone leaps"?
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Include at least one sequence that is four segments in length. (real or tonal)
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Old 06-29-2015, 11:51 PM   #17
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I guess I'm in. I'm having trouble thinking of a cool rule.
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Old 06-30-2015, 02:09 AM   #18
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I thought we were doing Twinkle Twinkle Little Star? So if every other note in the melody is the actual song and the other is a Tritone off the actual melody that would be next, it should look like:

C Gb G Db A Eb
twin kle twin kle lit tle

Wouldn't it?

@ 4th Horse hmm.. Rule idea - maybe make every major 3rd interval a minor 3rd?

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what happens if the rules contradict each other. Like Sean's rule would make a sequence nearly impossible since the segments would likely be at inconsistent intervals.

@4thHorseman...as above. Or make the use of retrograde inversion compulsory, or must include at least one quarter note triplet, or include two whole notes in a line..etc
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Sean's suggestion for 4th's rule would be a global rule. You can say something like "one major 3rd interval in the melody needs to be a minor 3rd" instead. The whole point of local rules is so that the chances of clashing rules are diminished.

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