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Old 06-29-2012, 08:56 AM   #81
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Well, he is keeping the first round seeds secret and random, so I'm guessing not.
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Old 06-29-2012, 01:38 PM   #82
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How would the pyramid work with the three victors from the Colosseum?

I really like the Solitude theme. I might have gone with Skepticism - Sign of a Storm
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Old 06-29-2012, 01:44 PM   #83
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I don't listen to much funeral doom or anything overtly slow. Probably would say screw it and threw up dIS
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Old 06-29-2012, 02:08 PM   #84
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Funeral's Tragedies sprung to mind, as did Nest's Trail of the Unwary as well as Primordial's Gathering Wilderness, but I think ultimately my choice would be...
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Old 06-29-2012, 02:23 PM   #85
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That did come to mind, but maybe one of his other outputs fit better. Strength and Anger possibly
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Old 06-29-2012, 02:29 PM   #86
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I'll be honest Hardangervidda is the only thing I've heard by him.
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Old 06-29-2012, 02:50 PM   #87
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All I know is if I was in battle this round my selection would either have been Black Metal, or Doom, of the Funeral variety most likely.

Not gonna spend too much thought trying to come up with a worthy album, however.
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Old 06-29-2012, 03:01 PM   #88
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I knew both of these albums would be ones I've never heard, since the theme solitude is bound to lean towards the black stuff. I would've probably picked an album that would have a completely different take on solitude. Let it remain a mystery what it would've been.
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Old 06-29-2012, 03:26 PM   #89
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Ildjarn - Nidhogg - s/t is my favorite output if that means anything to you
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Old 06-29-2012, 03:57 PM   #90
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How would the pyramid work with the three victors from the Colosseum?

I really like the Solitude theme. I might have gone with Skepticism - Sign of a Storm


I may draw it out for you all haha.If we stick to pyramid then , Progbass,Helloween, and who ever loses this current match will be thrown together in the Colosseum/redemption match, same with the three losers from round 4,5,and 6, and the the losers from 7,8,9 will all be put together. It will be easier to do if we have all the match ups. Hey VG, want to just make the match ups now and we can select the themes as we go?, then I can draw a pretty pyramid with avatars and the like on paint.
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Old 06-29-2012, 04:39 PM   #91
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So here is what I had lined up through means of random generation....

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Old 06-29-2012, 04:40 PM   #92
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Old 06-29-2012, 04:47 PM   #93
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All of those look great
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This is going to be really good...

by the way VG.. man you haven't wrote me up with a profile yet..
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Ms. VG pointed that out this morning.

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Old 06-29-2012, 05:40 PM   #96
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Off the top of my head, my choice would quite probably be:



Doom/something, with track titles like 'Commemoration,' 'White Waters,' 'Veiled Exposure,' 'Persistent and Fleeting,' and 'Aurora Borealis,' generally conveying a pretty strong sense of solitude. Their quite literal 'sister band,' Atrox, also fit at times, such as on the song 'Unsummoned,' and are helped by having John Arch's evil little sister up front, but ultimately don't really make the sense of solitude as central to their album as 3atM.

Another option would be the most recent OSI release, although I suppose that that's to some degree more along the lines of 'isolation' than 'solitude' per se. There's probably a few black metal albums which one could summon up, such as Ulver's, although with those you often get the feeling that it's about another person's being in solitude than about being in solitude per se. I mean, it would still fit the theme to some degree, but I would generally think that the optimal album for this request would be one showing forth the sense of solitude rather than simply displaying it as something 'outside' oneself, something observed in another, given that I tend to associate 'solitude' with primarily living mentally with oneself rather than simply physical isolation, and hence an album which really worked for this would probably have to focus on this mental life and its developments than merely the fact of being in solitude. In a sense, being alone, facing the outside world as outside you, is only the start of life in solitude, and its essence would be facing yourself.

Some bands, like Sider or APSoG-era Fates Warning, do the whole internal life thing, but the techno-thrash basis of the former tends to make it focus more on 'isolation' than 'solitude' per se - that is, upon the degree to which one is alienated from creative and social existence - while the latter takes the content of this internal life to the point where to call it simply about 'solitude' would be a major oversimplification.

Ultimately, it's pretty hard to keep things focused on one's 'solitude' per se, because that to some extent implies a degree of focus on the self which can be difficult to pull off without becoming overly self-absorbed, especially given that lyrical (ie. introspective, first-person) art tends to focus on a sense of intimacy with another rather than simply on the self. I'd probably expect something along those lines most from a Christian metal album or something of the sort, given that for them it's a matter of communion with God, something which can still take place in worldly solitude, and also that 'solitude' has traditionally had pretty strong theological implications as that goes. In that kind of context, it still more or less makes sense to examine one's inner life in solitude while at the same time relating to another, because God is internal and etc. For example, songs like 'Hypnosis of Birds' or 'The Tower' by Holocaust would seem to work very well for this kind of thing, although the album as a whole isn't focused on 'solitude' per se (its unifying thematic is, well, John Mortimerness.)

Secular metal and the like in this kind of realm has generally tended to focus on the sense of intimacy with another outside oneself (eg. prog-era Fates Warning, OSI, Ocean Machine, even Sider), and hence a solitude which is just as much an alienation, hence isolation, so that the intimacy generally becomes the focus over the solitude. Imposed isolation is just as much a barrier to actual solitude as imposed interaction. For these artists, unlike, say, Holocaust, there's a strong sense of a tension between language and action, where they have trouble communicating because of an inability to go beyond 'static acts,' where, in other words, their relation to others is physical and external and can only be altered through physical action, rather than the mental, innate relationship theology posits to God. Your words won't save you now.

Rambling aside, I do think that the 3rd and the Mortal album comes the closest of those I can think of at the moment when it comes to evoking a sense of solitude while keeping the focus on the self; they do refer to others and their relations to them, but generally speaking this, while essential to the solitude felt, is still not placed in the focus. They seem to do quite well at showing both the negative, alienated elements of their solitude and its positive aspects, the sense of being free to examine the various aspects of yourself, your memories, daydreams and lapses. Indeed, the memories form a pretty large focus.

That said, a band which seems to do more or less what I described above as far as solitude goes, though non-metal, would probably be Echo Us on 'Tomorrow Will Tell the Story,' especially as that album gets going. It's made by a former member of Greyhaven, and is based around a sort of mysticism which is pretty conducive to this kind of 'solitude.' They'd probably be my hypothetical non-metal pick, and maybe more appropriate than 3rd and the Mortal to the theme, although 3rd and the Mortal aren't particularly shabby as far as this goes.
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Old 06-29-2012, 05:55 PM   #97
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The 9 losers go to the Colosseum for redemption.The winners go to r2.
Colosseum 1: Matches pit 3 players against one another, only 1 of the three may live, the other 2 are eaten by lions or Snookie. 3 rounds of Colosseum will decide the fates of the 9 losers of r1. Those who survive the Colosseum will be branded, and their lives forfeit if they return.

r2: The 3 Colosseum survivors are brought back to the main game. R2 begins. 12 players face off, 6 will be brought to the colloseum, while 6 will adavance.

Colosseum 2: Depending on who enters, the match will consistent of either 1 match of three, two matches of 3, two matches of 2, or 1 match of 5 in which the winner and runner up will be allowed to leave. Only 2 men will leave from this colloseum.

r3: 4 matches, 4 winners 4 losers. The 4 losers will return to final colloseum.

r4: 2 matches 3rd place: Losers of r4 face off for 3rd and 4th spot.

1st= God Of Hesse
2nd= King Of Hesse
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3-Col: Losers of r3 enter the colloseum, thoose with a previous colloseum mark are purged, 1 man leaves for one last attempt at glory, entitled Challenger of Hesse. The challenger now battles his way up the hiearchy to attempt to take the the title of God Of Hesse for himself.



Only went as far as I did because we don't know how many matches the 2nd Colosseum will make up yet.
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