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Old 06-27-2012, 04:58 PM   #1
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Breaking in a new guitar speaker

I have read a lot of discussions about this and many different ways of doing it such as using fabric softener and transformers. Loads of people have said to just play it really loud but since I only get to play it loud for about 1 hour a week this would take months. I had an idea to plug my ipod in to it and leave it playing over night but didn't think it would work. I just plugged it in and music came out, farely loud as well. Surely this is an obvious solution? Why has no one thought of this before? Is there any reason for no one suggesting this or are people just not imaginitive anymore? Btw I am using a 75 watt 16 ohm speaker.
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Old 06-27-2012, 05:03 PM   #2
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I actually heard about some other people on another forum doing that. I don't know if it's the proper way of doing things but they seemed to think it's alright.
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Old 06-27-2012, 05:07 PM   #3
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I actually heard about some other people on another forum doing that. I don't know if it's the proper way of doing things but they seemed to think it's alright.


I guess it's better then nothing. As long as there are no dangers of it over heating or anything
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Old 06-27-2012, 05:13 PM   #4
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actually talking of breaking in speakers. is it about guitar speakers only or any speakers in general?
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Old 06-27-2012, 05:24 PM   #5
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actually talking of breaking in speakers. is it about guitar speakers only or any speakers in general?


12" 16ohm 75watt guitar speaker
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Old 06-27-2012, 05:27 PM   #6
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Just keep playing it. It will have an aggressive lower-high frequency spike for a while (that especially stands out at lower volumes), but it's in my opinion the safest and most effective way of breaking in a speaker. Gives you an excuse to play more as well.
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Old 06-27-2012, 05:29 PM   #7
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12" 16ohm 75watt guitar speaker

I know mate, I read it in the OP. I was just wonderinf the rule of breaking in the speakers apply to any sort of speakers ( like PA or hifi) or just guitar speakers?
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Old 06-27-2012, 05:31 PM   #8
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I know mate, I read it in the OP. I was just wonderinf the rule of breaking in the speakers apply to any sort of speakers ( like PA or hifi) or just guitar speakers?


Oh right sorry haha. I am not sure, I am guessing the principles will be the same but I don't think it will be anywhere as near noticeable with a PA speaker
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Old 06-27-2012, 05:35 PM   #9
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Breaking it in on purpose would be like denting your guitar with a screwdriver to make it look "used"... just play the thing, it will get there sooner or later...
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Old 06-27-2012, 05:37 PM   #10
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You don't need to have crazy volume, just put all our settings (bass,treb,mid) to max and play for about an hour using really full chords. Remember your trying to stimulate the cone as much as possible.

This will make your speaker largely broken it, but it will still be about a month or 2 (depending how much you play) before the speaker is completely broken it.


You can play music through it from an Ipod/mp3 player at again (moderate) volumes, but it probably won't drive the cone as much as just playing with your guitar.
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Old 06-27-2012, 05:42 PM   #11
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You don't need to have crazy volume, just put all our settings (bass,treb,mid) to max and play for about an hour using really full chords. Remember your trying to stimulate the cone as much as possible.

This will make your speaker largely broken it, but it will still be about a month or 2 (depending how much you play) before the speaker is completely broken it.


You can play music through it from an Ipod/mp3 player at again (moderate) volumes, but it probably won't drive the cone as much as just playing with your guitar.


Thankyou. I'll try that tomorrow! Also I am doing the ipod thing as well as playing through it just to speeden up the process
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Old 06-27-2012, 05:49 PM   #12
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Breaking it in on purpose would be like denting your guitar with a screwdriver to make it look "used"... just play the thing, it will get there sooner or later...


Not really. Denting your guitar wouldn't imve its sonic or tonal values but merely damage its aesthetics. Like most other people I don't want to have to wait 40-60 hours of playing time for my speaker to break in. If I worked for 40 hours on minimum wage (5 per hour) I would earn 200 which I could use to buy a celestion alnico gold speaker. So ye stop being a jerk
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Old 06-27-2012, 05:54 PM   #13
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I know mate, I read it in the OP. I was just wonderinf the rule of breaking in the speakers apply to any sort of speakers ( like PA or hifi) or just guitar speakers?


i personally don't find it 'necessary' to break-in a speaker. indeed, i am a bit fuzzy on the absolute concept of breaking-in a speaker. a speaker is mechanical, the characteristics of it's parts continue to decay as the speaker ages. glues weaken, materials thin, connection parts weaken and wear. just like a car tire, a speaker will eventually need to be replaced.

this should apply to all speakers. so you can loosen up a speaker from factory, but there are no hard rules for hours and looseness. people just 'break them in', but there is no definite point where it is 'broken in'

so, people need to remember a speaker's tone will continually change throughout it's life. and also that a speaker's life span is limited.

if you keep this in mind, then you can provide yourself with different mindset. breaking in speakers is little more than advancing a speaker age and loosening parts in the speaker. also, you can adopt the idea a speaker wears out when you use it. furthermore, if you use the speaker in a more stressful way (high volumes, lots of distortion, low frequencies) then wear the speaker faster than if you use it at nominal levels.

not only will speakers wear faster when stressed, but they also wear in different ways. when you run high volume with low frequencies you can cause the speaker excursion to extend past it's nominal limits causing at unique wearing not normally found in speakers run below nominal parameters.

also, running speakers are high volumes for extended periods of time can cause overheating of the voice coil. some designs used aluminum dust caps to help dissipate the heat and limit this stress.

what this all boils down to is: yes you can break-in a speaker by playing sound through it for extended periods of time but you must be careful not to stressful to the speaker too much.

don't play too loud, don't play music with big thumping basslines, maybe even role back on the low end to keep low notes in check.
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Old 06-27-2012, 09:24 PM   #14
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there is no quantitiy of hours. 100% dependant of the style, frequency of playing volume etc of the music being played not to mention brand of speaker.

this is a fiarly foolish discussion. ok. new sandals, yeah they suck until you break em in. yeah sure the speakers do sound better broken in but really your not going to notice because it is a gradual and very very long and subtle thing.

its not a black and white tonal difference, not will ith appen fast enough for you to pick up on it. one day you will just be playing and go...."hmm, there might be more mellow than im used to"

or you might get a new speaker or play on another guys exact cab and basically get an A/B taste.

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there is no quantitiy of hours. 100% dependant of the style, frequency of playing volume etc of the music being played not to mention brand of speaker.

new sandals, yeah they suck until you break em in. yeah sure the speakers do sound better broken in but really your not going to notice because it is a gradual and very very long and subtle thing.

its not a black and white tonal difference, not will ith appen fast enough for you to pick up on it. one day you will just be playing and go...."hmm, there might be more mellow than im used to"

or you might get a new speaker or play on another guys exact cab and basically get an A/B taste.

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you can do all that dumb crap to a baseball mit. long story short, if you never play the game, the mit really wont ever break in.
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Old 06-28-2012, 03:48 AM   #16
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i personally don't find it 'necessary' to break-in a speaker. indeed, i am a bit fuzzy on the absolute concept of breaking-in a speaker. a speaker is mechanical, the characteristics of it's parts continue to decay as the speaker ages. glues weaken, materials thin, connection parts weaken and wear. just like a car tire, a speaker will eventually need to be replaced.....

thanks that was a long post, didn't want to quote the whole thing. It was helpful. I am just waiting for some new gear to arrive in a cargo. I'm getting some hifi speakers and a big PA system, I was thinking whether I'll need to break in dem speakers or no. Well from what it sounds I'm better of not really attempting to do that with that system.
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Old 06-28-2012, 04:39 AM   #17
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It does depend on the speaker. And I don't think it's so much of a wearing out process as a bedding in one. It took several weeks of playing at decent volumes before the 12" Lorantz Greenback clone I have in my 1x12 loosened up and started to sound like a proper greenback. That speaker has particularly resilient paper in the cone containing hemp and using some trick manufacturing process developed by the CSIRO. So whether it's the paper fibres settling or the surround loosening up it's hard to say. Probably a little from column A and a little from column B - but as it takes such a long time and the main difference between it and an actual Celestion is the cone, I'd take an educated guess that it's the cone's fibres settling in.

To the OP. An old trick to break in speakers is to run 60Hz (or 50Hz) through them overnight. I am NOT saying that you just plug it into the wall btw. Running music through them overnight always seemed like a better idea to me.
Personally, I like to do it by actually playing through it. That way you know it's the actual frequencies it will be seeing in use that's shaking it up during break in. However, that's probably specious because even a single low frequency like 60Hz seems to do just as good a job.
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