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Old Yesterday, 06:51 AM   #1
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Ebola Thread. Brace Yourselves.

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“I don’t see a light at the end of the tunnel,” said Lucey, a physician and professor from Georgetown University who is halfway through a five-week tour in Liberia with Medecins Sans Frontieres, the medical charity known in English as Doctors Without Borders. “The epidemic is still getting worse,” he said by phone between shifts.

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MSF has been the first -- and often only -- line of defense against Ebola in West Africa. The group raised the alarm on March 31, months ahead of the World Health Organization. Now, after treating almost a third of the roughly 9,000 confirmed Ebola cases in Africa -- and faced with a WHO warning of perhaps 10,000 new infections a week by December -- MSF is reaching its limits.

“They are at the breaking point,” said Vinh-Kim Nguyen, a professor at the School of Public Health at the University of Montreal who has volunteered for a West African tour with MSF in a few weeks. MSF has already seen 21 workers infected and 12 people die, and “there’s a sense that there’s a major wave of infections that’s about to wash everything away,” Nguyen said.

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On March 23, the WHO posted the confirmation on its website. A week later, MSF issued a statement citing eight cases in Conakry and calling the outbreak unprecedented. The WHO didn’t declare Ebola an international public health emergency until Aug. 8, more than four months after MSF’s warning.




http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-...king-point.html

tl;dr first and thus far only line of defence saying shit's ****ed on a whole different level
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Based on my knowledge of video game simulators involving deadly spreads of virus, i'd close all the borders.
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aren't there like 5 ebola threads so far already?
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The CDC team’s widely reported worst case projection of 1.4 million cases by 20 January was based on the correction factor of 2.5, and assuming control efforts didn’t improve. It included only Liberia and Sierra Leone; in Guinea, the reported numbers of cases have fluctuated too much to make a reasonable projection, Meltzer says, which could also could be partly due to underreporting.

What does WHO think is a reasonable correction factor?

WHO hasn't published an estimate. “It's a point that has been greatly discussed but there is a tremendous amount of uncertainty,” Dye says. For its internal planning purposes, however, WHO uses a correction factor of 2.0. When WHO’s Bruce Aylward said at a press conference last week that the agency is expecting to see between 5000 and 10,000 cases per week by early December, “the difference between the 5000 and the 10,000 is that factor of two,” Dye says. A correction factor of 2.0 would mean that the total number of cases has now crossed 18,000 and the number of deaths 9000.



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Based on my knowledge of video game simulators involving deadly spreads of virus, i'd close all the borders.

Not gonna stop birds dropping from the sky en masse
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Nigeria is officially Ebola free so I don't think it's much of a problem if they can get rid of it.
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Hey, would you look at that.

My cumulative '****s given' count hasn't incremented as a result of this thread.
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There are still only 3 countries in the entire world in which Ebola is a major issue and none of those places are known for having amazing healthcare.

That spanish nurse recovered/is recovering and I heard one of the american nurses with ebola was getting better, too. Soon, everyone will have forgotten all about ebola and the media will move on to the next incurable super deadly disease of doom.
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Need to actually research this properly. I've just read briefly what's in the news, but it's seemed to me that it's going to be contained to Africa with a very minor spread in any developed countries. Isn't it also pretty much contained to West Africa? The countries currently seeing high numbers of infection are looking like they are in trouble, but they would be in trouble if one of the more serious stains of influenza hit because of the lack of health care infrastructure and compete mistrust of health care workers.

Anyway, I'm actually going to read some journal papers on it because getting information third hand from news outlets seems a bit daft.
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Nigeria is officially Ebola free so I don't think it's much of a problem if they can get rid of it.



Except Nigeria is by far the most developed Sub-Sharan African state and they only had 19 reported cases to begin with.
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Except Nigeria is by far one of the most developed Sub-Saharan African states and they only had 19 reported cases to begin with.


Which means it's extremely unlikely for it to be a problem for me, in Western Europe.
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Except Nigeria is by far one of the most developed Sub-Sharan African states and they only had 19 reported cases to begin with.

So it's not really spreading beyond the 3 utterly ****ed countries in which it's already rampant.

So the situation remains that more needs to be done there, but those of us who aren't health care workers in specialist infectious disease isolation units, will be totally unaffected by this.
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Which means it's extremely unlikely for it to be a problem for me, in Western Europe.

I've never claimed that it would be.

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So it's not really spreading beyond the 3 utterly ****ed countries in which it's already rampant.

If that's your prognosis doctor, sure

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Isn't it also pretty much contained to West Africa?

No one can actually make a claim on containment just yet considering how poor reporting on the ground is, and how understaffed the region is.

http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/lab-bio/...s/ebola-eng.php
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I've never claimed that it would be.


If that's your prognosis doctor, sure

It's the facts as they stand.
The only transmissions outside Africa have been in HCWs directly involved in the care of repatriated cases, and who have(in all cases) not complied fully with the safety protocols in place, and there have been no infections from these individuals.

You can scaremonger all you like, but you're vastly more likely to get hit by a bus than even encounter anyone with ebola, let alone get infected by it.
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I'm not prone to touching the bodily fluids of strangers or eating bats so I'm not overly concerned. Call me when it becomes airborne.

If you want to get all scared about something get scared about something like cancer.
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It's the facts as they stand.
The only transmissions outside Africa have been in HCWs directly involved in the care of repatriated cases, and who have(in all cases) not complied fully with the safety protocols in place, and there have been no infections from these individuals.

You can scaremonger all you like, but you're vastly more likely to get hit by a bus than even encounter anyone with ebola, let alone get infected by it.

Please point to the part where I claimed it will affect nations outside that of Africa. Please do.
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tl;dr first and thus far only line of defence saying shit's ****ed on a whole different level


There. If you don't know what you are implying then you are an idiot
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Ebola is truly tragic for the people who have been affected by it, but it's not going to wipe out humanity. All the people screaming 'Obama's ebola scandal' are making a 'scandal' where there isn't one. I really hate when people exploit other's suffering to further a petty political agenda.

Like this shit is seriously stupid:

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Making fun of stupidity aside, I'm not concerned for my own life but this is really terrible for the ebola prone areas of Liberia, Sierra Leone, and Guinea.
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There. If you don't know what you are implying then you are an idiot

At this point, you are really grasping at straws. Keep putting words into others' mouths though -- it's working real well for you. I can see why you get yelled at in feminism threads
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At this point, you are really grasping at straws. Keep putting words into others' mouths though -- it's working real well for you. I can see why you get yelled at in feminism threads


If you aren't scaremongering and Eolba isn't a threat why are you making threads on how "shit's ****ed" stuff is?
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I think they are reacting to how it's being portrayed in the media in regards to its severity beyond the affected areas.

It's a tragedy for the worst affected countries, beyond the obvious aspect of losing family members /parents /income, it'll decimate their economies, but this won't be the last outbreak of a serious disease over there. Hell, given the amount of drugs were burning through I'd expect multi-drug resistant pathogens to absolutely ravage any countries like the ones affected within the next 10-15 years.

^ because the affected countries are ****ed. You both are arguing different points.
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