SunshineMusicO

I completely agree dude. Acid is not just a term for a psychedelic substance that is active in very miniscule doses and fits on blotter....it's kinda sad. I just want some LSD dammit haha

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progdude93

No it can't, the comeup for LSD will be 45 minutes to an hour at most. Only RCs take that long to come up. 25i and 2c-e have a similar comeup time, ranging from 1.75 hours to three, while DOxs have a longer comeup of 3-4 hours (and DOxs last for 16+ hours AT THE BARE MINIMUM). Another thing to note is that 25i and 2c-e (moreso 25i than 2c-e, though it applies to both) have a pretty interesting comeup where you'll be convinced you're done coming up and you plateau for a bit. Then, depending on your activities and environment, you'll think, "Shit, it wasn't the best idea to take this. I'm not tripping too hard, but I just don't feel that great." And then you'll continue the comeup.

EDIT: I really hesitate to advise people on dosage unless I know them and the drugs they get. But odds are, you don't have a one hit wonder. Those are pretty ****ing rare. The only time in my life I took one tab was the first time I tried it, and I didn't really trip. I just had a nice body high and the usual enhancements. But no visuals at all, and the thoughts were only minorly trippy. I usually take 4-6, and that gets me good.

Except when I found the best paper I've had, I had gotten a sheet of it. I sold six tenstrips and kept the remaining four for myself and friends. They disappeared far more quickly than I'd have liked, but if you have the money, it's worth investing it in quality headstash acid. Just keep it away from moisture and light.

nosuchmanasmole

bromos dangerous how ? the only thing that worried me about it when i researched it was articles saying the trip could last a few days, they didn't state the doseage that would cause a couple of days trip which was annoying. more annoyingly the guy dosent know the concentration of the liquid but its 3 drops for 1 tenner and i assumed that would be a good place to start, nothing bad ever happens on ten pounds worth of drugs lol

mental_zer0

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/bro...fly_death.shtml

unless he doesn't know what he's doing which it sounds like he doesn't. bromo has caused deaths before, same with 25i and plenty of other RCs. People have freaked out on less than 3 'drops'.

RCs are way more dangerous than dealers and most festival kids make out. they haven't been tested nearly to the extent of LSD or MDMA or ganja and while they make for great times, the imprecise dosing that comes with purchasing drugs from a black market makes taking even semi large doses unnecessarily risky if you aren't guaranteed of your source e.g. quality, quantity, lab source, etc.

This is one of the main reasons I've purchased a few test kits for when I might get blotter in the future. I'm sick of uncertainty when purchasing drugs; it's not a risk I'm willing to put up with anymore because the massive RC upswing lately. i'm tired of eating random bits of paper only to end up with a numb tongue and paranoia.

also, if acid takes 2+ hours to come up, it's not acid.

also, i wish people would stop assuming all blotter is acid. it's probably not.

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nosuchmanasmole

thanks for that link man, its definitely made me think twice I had no idea bromo was a research chemical. ive got plenty of shrooms lying around from september so i might just stick to those for the moment/

RPGoof

It's always been the case with me, whether it was bitter/tasteless/numbing etc.

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progdude93

Bitter and numbness=RC
Tasteless CAN be LSD, but it could also be a few other things. None of the methods actually tell you that what you have is LSD. What they do is eliminate possibilities. So if you use a few methods, you can safely eliminate every possibility but one.

JayT44

That's true for DOB, it can last up to 24 hours. I think DOI is a really long trip as well, but I can't speak on that for sure. DOC is a much shorter time span. It usually fades after about 6 to 8 hours, with a comeup around two to three hours.

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RPGoof

Last time I took actual 2c-e I peaked before an hour struck... my point being that I don't think comeup time is a realiable factor.

I've had comeups ranging from 1 hour to 2.5 hours of tasteless tabs from the SAME SHEET. I've also had to wait 5 hours to feel a 300mg DXM+50mg DPH dose multiple times (at which point I'm going to bed so it doesn't lead anywhere) but I've also had to wait an hour on other occasions.

Coming up on a substance depends on many more factors than the drug itself, so really, it's not a reliable factor in determining what you're taking.

And as far as the tab's I've taken are concerned, I've had great experiences on tasteless tabs, bitter tabs, and numbing tabs. I'm sure most of them weren't actual LSD, but they were all very good experiences which I was quite happy to have had, and they all fit in the approximate 8-12 hour window for full experience. I didn't take an extreme dose (almost always 2 tabs) and they have always come from reliable sources (ie. friends that have eaten part of their supply) so when it really comes down to it, I don't care what the name of the substance was.

But thats just me.

Do you guys have sources for your information? I only ask because anecdotal evidence is hardly solid evidence until it has a solid, reliable source (no offense but I'll admit I've talked about anecdotal """""facts""""" many times that, well, aren't) and anything concerning LSD is hard to pin down the real facts

and so I don't look like more of a moron here is your 2c-e trip length chart: http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/2ce/2ce_effects.shtml

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WalidTheBoy

Hey Goof, you ever been to 42 degrees in a2? They got some pretty nice glass

progdude93

I've had really potent LSD that lasted for 6 hours, and I've done 2c-e many times and never peaked after only an hour. Erowid even said that the comeup time (including onset, which I count as part of the comeup) is roughly two hours for 2c-e.

Plus, many sheets are laid really inconsistently, so saying they came from the same sheet means nothing. Many sheets are concentrated in the middle, meaning the onset will be much quicker. Plus, LSD absorbs into the mouth much quicker than the vast majority of RCs.

After 15 minutes, there's no reason to keep LSD in your mouth. RC tabs should be kept in the mouth for 45 minutes. If someone has ever fed you the line, "Yeah, these tabs have a special coating on them to protect the acid (presumably from contact with fingers or to make them last longer without degrading), so keep it in your mouth for a while and don't swallow them," then that's an RC, because they take much longer to absorb.

And yeah, I've taken many RCs, and I've had a great time on 'em. A good trip is a good trip. Like I said earlier, 2c-e is one of my favorite drugs.

Some of what I've said is anecdotal, but it's been rigorously tested by tripping many times and from selling dozens of sheets of "acid" (composed of 25i, 2c-e, and actual LSD). When you have ten sheets to get rid of, and plenty of people feeding you bullshit lies, you have to test shit out. But I've also had everything I know about this shit verified by a chemist friend of mine. He doesn't make acid, but he knows a lot more than anyone I know, and makes his own shit that he sells on SR. He even sells his services (you get to ask him 3 questions for $100) and gets a lot of business.

I don't have links I can give you, but my knowledge was compiled over the course of a few years, many trips I've gone through, and many time that I gave friends some tabs to test theories out.

RPGoof

Probably, I hit up a bunch of shops when I went there for the Hash Bash in 2011 but can't remember the names. Have you been to the Jungle Room in Birmingham?

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WalidTheBoy

Nahh i haven't checked that one out

theponz

Hm so do you guys think if I took 2 tabs I would most likely be alright? I'll have all day and I am a very calm and level headed person, never freaked out on any other drugs. I would rather have a good, solid first experience than an underwhelming one. The two people I bought it from weren't sketchy but they didn't look like chemists either so I'm inclined to bet its an RC. Either way is alright, though hopefully not DOx, I would rather not trip for 16-24 hours

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jimihendrix6699

id say go for two, have you done any other psychs? if you have and enjoyed them then go for two man. that's what i would do if i had some acid, well what i plan on doing actually...whenever i actually get acid..

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theponz

No I haven't, this is the first time I've gotten my hands on any, but I have researched a ton and like I said I am pretty confident in my ability to handle myself physically and mentally, and I will be with some good friends up in the mountains during the day, hopefully without many people around. The only thing is I want to figure out a place we can all go that is safe and private, just in case. I don't know, I need to pick up some more for an additional friend so I figure I'll grab another tab for myself and decide if I want to take it then or save it.

Edit: Have you?

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RPGoof

Birmingham is a really rich area, the Jungle Room is easily the most high-end headshop I've ever seen

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WalidTheBoy

Yeah thats awesome, i love going into headshops to see all the pieces. I've got two currently but i think im gonna add another to the collection

jimihendrix6699

Yea it sounds like you'd fine with two. As long as your confident and in a good place, mentally and physically, then you should be fine. Just roll with whatever happens and try to have the best time you can.

And yea ive done shrooms multiple times. i had the same mindset you have with your confidence and research and i did them by myself for my first time. So i think you should be straight with 2 man.

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