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Old 07-24-2012, 01:28 AM   #61
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Why streaming is allowed is because it's advertisement based I guess. Just check out Youtube and you'll see shitloads of commercials. Even if you upload a pirated song Youtube is the one who's going to profit from it and they are one of the biggest actors in entertainment industry. When the big players earn the cash, then all the methods are acceptable. I wouldn't be surprised if it's the same people behind Youtube who actually trying to criminalize file sharing. But in one of those cases they don't make money, guess which one.
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Old 07-24-2012, 01:38 AM   #62
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I used TPB from ages 15 to 17. It's no news flash that it's harming some people but on the other hand, it's free promotion for lesser known bands. Our opinions on the subject aren't going to change the fact millions of people around the world use it and will continue to use it, no matter what fancy law is passed. Where there's a will, there's a way.
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Old 10-02-2012, 04:22 PM   #63
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Up, So since its down yet again, when do you think it will get back up ?
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Old 10-02-2012, 04:25 PM   #64
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Should be up within a day. Apparently the downtime has nothing to do with the police seizing.
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Old 10-02-2012, 04:27 PM   #65
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Old 10-02-2012, 04:32 PM   #66
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I'd be interested to know the statistics of how many people find out about a band/group/musician through piracy.

I reckon that a lot of people find out about groups through piracy, those people now know about that artist making them more likely to purchase singles/albums/merch etc.
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Old 10-02-2012, 05:03 PM   #67
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Oh god, not this discussion again...

The Pirate Bay still exists because like it or not, it's the face of torrenting, and torrents are the face of music piracy in the world's (read: entertainment industries) view.

I'm not gonna mingle in the discussion about whether piracy is right or wrong, too fed up with the constant rehashing of the same arguements over and over again. I will say this though: nobody thinks alike, and it's when we expect eachother to have the same opinion that I fear for the future of humanity.
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Old 10-02-2012, 05:19 PM   #68
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They constantly switch owners and locations of the websites and it's servers, and it's quite easy to hide. They're were considering just using hash links, which would make the whole website a couple mb and able to store on a flash drive.
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Old 10-02-2012, 05:20 PM   #69
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It's alive because it's an RIAA honeytrap. Your IPs are being logged, and soon all torrenters will be disposed of in one fell swoop.
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Old 10-02-2012, 05:52 PM   #70
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Old 10-02-2012, 05:58 PM   #71
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Exactly! It's complete bullshit that companies like RCAA are allowed (in the court system) to charge and then basically fine (aka, win court cases) those who copy music. Music should be something that belongs to everyone. I can understand people selling CDs or tickets for live performances. However, music should still be largely something that is the "property of humanity" and therefore you should NEVER be penalized for downloading it.

Or at the least, there's no damn way anyone should be charged millions or billions of dollars because the RCAA sued them and won.


I don't know if I agree that it shouldn't be at least...a little tiny bit frowned upon to pirate things. I mean it is stealing. As far as music goes I use Spotify as much as I can so at least the artist gets something.

The only time I do pirate if it is some pop song...because you know...screw them
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Old 10-02-2012, 05:59 PM   #72
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the pirate bay has been down for a couple of days now actually
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Old 10-02-2012, 06:33 PM   #73
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While I agree it's definitely important to support the artist, one thing that I really don't see a problem with at all is albums that have been out for years and have sold millions of copies. Of course it's important to support an artist, but if people are downloading something like, say, Michael Jackson's Thriller or Back in Black by AC/DC, or Bon Jovi or Metallica or anything like that, who are you really hurting at that point? I mean, that kind of stuff may as well be public domain, it's so heavily circulated through media and whatnot.
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Old 10-02-2012, 07:28 PM   #75
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It's alive because it's an RIAA honeytrap. Your IPs are being logged, and soon all torrenters will be disposed of in one fell swoop.

How would RIAA be logging the IPs of tpb visitors?
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Old 10-02-2012, 07:32 PM   #76
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Honestly, TPB is so big and so widely used that if it were to be taken down by a government force, it would only be seen as martyrdom. The UK trying to force ISPs to ban TPB only made the site more popular.
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Old 10-02-2012, 08:36 PM   #77
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Because TPB isn't run by fucktards, that's how it's still alive. I, for one, think fining people for downloading music over the internet is stupid. Music should be public domain 2-5 years after the artist releases it anyway.
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Old 10-02-2012, 08:46 PM   #78
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Because TPB isn't run by fucktards, that's how it's still alive. I, for one, think fining people for downloading music over the internet is stupid. Music should be public domain 2-5 years after the artist releases it anyway.

Why? It's their work. They should be able to make as much money off of it as they want.
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How would RIAA be logging the IPs of tpb visitors?

Demon copyright magic. SOPA= Spells Of Pirate Annihilation
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Old 10-02-2012, 09:00 PM   #80
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Why? It's their work. They should be able to make as much money off of it as they want.

Of course it is. But the idea of music, to me, has always been that you're presenting it to the world. So, charging for it for 50+ years is ridiculous, to me. If they want to charge for it for 2-5 years, then I could find that reasonable.
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