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Old 07-29-2012, 05:17 AM   #1
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Chord Shapes

I know much about music theory & chords... But, i've seen many guitarists holding weird looking chords especially Eric Johnson... Can anyone please suggest me some books or DVD which teaches this kind of chord voicings??
N.B.- Please don't suggest some Chordbook full of irrrelevant 8000 chords... I want something which gives the idea behind those voicings..
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Old 07-29-2012, 05:22 AM   #2
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Well how are we supposed to know what you think is irrelevant? A big chord book sounds like exactly what you need. Unless you don't know harmony theory? If you don't know harmony theory go to the youtube link in my sig and click on the playlist on tonal harmony.
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Old 07-29-2012, 05:26 AM   #3
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Which concepts/aspects of music theory do feel that you currently understand? Whether it be understanding the relationships of notes and intervals; constructing major and minor scales and their respective triads; the function of chords and degrees in a given key; the CAGED system; how to construct an inversion or extension; the more we know about what you currently know, the more helpful and direct our responses can be.



EDIT: Also, if you could provide a video or mp3 link to a piece that you feel showcases the ideas that you're looking to replicate, we can analyse the voicings used to offer a more direct and specific response.
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Old 07-29-2012, 07:18 AM   #4
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Which concepts/aspects of music theory do feel that you currently understand? Whether it be understanding the relationships of notes and intervals; constructing major and minor scales and their respective triads; the function of chords and degrees in a given key; the CAGED system; how to construct an inversion or extension; the more we know about what you currently know, the more helpful and direct our responses can be.



EDIT: Also, if you could provide a video or mp3 link to a piece that you feel showcases the ideas that you're looking to replicate, we can analyse the voicings used to offer a more direct and specific response.


Thanx 4 replying... I know all the things mentioned by you except "how to construct an inversion or extension".. I have idea about inversions/extensions.. But, I want to know more...

Also, I have a pretty good idea about scale modes...

And here are 2 videos--




In The last one by Guthrie Govan shows some chords in the beginning..
I am talking about this kind of stuff..

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Old 07-29-2012, 07:29 AM   #5
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Old 07-29-2012, 08:04 AM   #6
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Thanx 4 replying... I know all the things mentioned by you except "how to construct an inversion or extension".. I have idea about inversions/extensions.. But, I want to know more...

Also, I have a pretty good idea about scale modes...

And here are 2 videos--




In The last one by Guthrie Govan shows some chords in the beginning..
I am talking about this kind of stuff..


There you go:
http://tabs.ultimate-guitar.com/e/e...nhattan_tab.htm
All tabbed out, you can learn from there.

In the second video you can CLEARLY see what the chords he's playing are. Figure them out and analyse them - what notes they are, and therefore what's the chord name? If you say you can't do it, you're just being lazy - it's really easy to figure it out from the video. Go try it yourself and don't expect people to give you anything on a plate.
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Old 07-29-2012, 08:43 AM   #7
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There you go:
http://tabs.ultimate-guitar.com/e/e...nhattan_tab.htm
All tabbed out, you can learn from there.

In the second video you can CLEARLY see what the chords he's playing are. Figure them out and analyse them - what notes they are, and therefore what's the chord name? If you say you can't do it, you're just being lazy - it's really easy to figure it out from the video. Go try it yourself and don't expect people to give you anything on a plate.


I figured out those... But, thats just 5-6 chords.. I want to know more about the subject like other shapes, etc... So, that, I can, apply it into my playing...

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Old 07-29-2012, 09:38 AM   #8
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How's your knowledge on voicings of triads and 7th chords? I wouldn't go any further than 7ths chords until you've mastered how to invert triads and 7ths first.
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Old 07-29-2012, 12:02 PM   #9
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It seems you don't know as much as you claim you do.

I think it would be beneficial to, as stated above, to learn how to construct a seventh chord. Then all it readily comes down to, is rearranging the notes. Just because the formula says 1 3 5 7, didn't mean they need to stay that way.
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Old 07-29-2012, 12:19 PM   #10
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I figured out those... But, thats just 5-6 chords.. I want to know more about the subject like other shapes, etc... So, that, I can, apply it into my playing...


If you figured out those as you say, then doesnt it follow that you know the voicings that gave it form? Then you can apply all of these lessons to chords of your own. Why does everything have to be spoonfed for you? Think for yourself. Look at the voicings, what makes it different?

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Old 07-31-2012, 05:16 AM   #11
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Old 07-31-2012, 06:43 AM   #12
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screw music theory... get yourself an Alan Holdsworth book or an Al di Meola book. Or better yet, why not just get the Eric Johnson video "Total electric guitar" where he actually shows you his method of constructing said chords. That might just be simpler.
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Old 09-10-2012, 08:31 AM   #13
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Can anyone please suggest me some books or DVD which teaches this kind of chord voicings?

I think 'Guitar Fretboard workbook' by Barrett Tagliarino would be one.
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Old 09-10-2012, 10:46 AM   #14
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I want something which gives the idea behind those voicings..


The "idea?" behind different voicings?

The idea of a voicing is two things:

Firstly, and by far most importantly, the way it sounds. As your ear develops you will gradually begin to really hear the differences. Until then, just keeping working at it.

Secondly, and by far less important, is how easy it is to play coming from, or going to, other chords. Sometimes you use a given voicing because it flows better for your fingers/skill level, but that's largely a personal choice.

The big one is sound. You either hear the difference or you don't.
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