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Old 08-25-2012, 06:48 AM   #61
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And here we are, a jury in the United States, saying that Samsung plagiarized their designs, while Germany favoured Samsung, South Korea favoured Samsung, the Netherlands favoured Samsung, and I'm pretty sure the rest of the countries that matter favoured Samsung as well in their judgement.

Way to go USA !
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Old 08-25-2012, 06:52 AM   #62
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Old 08-25-2012, 06:55 AM   #63
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I'm kind of peeved at the news. Samsung is so much better than Apple.

I look forward to Samsung introducing their new oblong-shaped phones.
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And on top of that, the hearing took place in San Jose, which is all of a 14 minute drive from Apple's headquarters in Cupertino. Not exactly a neutral location.


They should have the next one in Seattle.
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Old 08-25-2012, 07:49 AM   #66
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In British English, a billion is equivalent to a million million, while in American English it has always equated to a thousand million, so a British billion is far bigger than an American Billion.

That said, British English has now adopted the American figure as a legal definition, so the number would have the same definition, but, £1 currently equals US $ 1.5805, roughly one and a half dollars, so a British '1 billion pounds' is currently worth more that an American '1 billion dollars', by roughly half again.

Really??

Thanks for clearing that up.. I definitely remember learning in school that a billion is a million million, yet every time I look at something that is supposed to be a billion I think there are loads of 0s missing. I never said anything in case anyone thought I was an idiot.

Surely the word is like bi-million, how do you get a thousand million from that?
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Old 08-25-2012, 08:06 AM   #67
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Really??

Thanks for clearing that up.. I definitely remember learning in school that a billion is a million million, yet every time I look at something that is supposed to be a billion I think there are loads of 0s missing. I never said anything in case anyone thought I was an idiot.

Surely the word is like bi-million, how do you get a thousand million from that?

if anything i would get 2 million from that.
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Old 08-25-2012, 08:54 AM   #68
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I think now that smartphones are phasing out mp3 players, Apple is seeing the iPod's sales drop, so they made this move to ensure a large market share.
But, I think tablets are just a phase anyway, so, I'll only be upset if this will hurt Samsung as a whole
EDIT: Wait...this lawsuit wasn't over tablets? Guess I should read more.
Whatever. **** Apple
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Old 08-25-2012, 09:23 AM   #69
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What annoys me most about this is that whenever Apple gets sued for patent breach( I know it's not exactly the same as copying intellectual property but still).

The company just always brings forth the FRAND argument of Nokia, Microsoft, Samsung or whatever company is misusing their patents. And they get away with it, or have to settle for a very very small price.

That company is absolute immoral filth.
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Old 08-25-2012, 09:25 AM   #70
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so the double tap is an apple feature?

hasn't the double click been around for a while?

Also, hasn't the overscroll thing pretty much been a standard feature of browsers for a while?
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Old 08-25-2012, 09:42 AM   #71
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This is like Mcd suing Burger King on the basis that the whopper is too similar to a quarter pounder. That's how I see this. It is difficult to configure an already simplistic design into something different. In essence, most touch screen phones revolve around a basic black slate design with very minor changes in button layouts.

then why do some cost more and others dont? i think this isnt based on looks, rather the actual technology involved. otherwise this case is stupid, all brands would sue eachother if baseball bats and tennis shoes all had a similar idea. you dont need to make abstract shapes for a phone to be a phone company. i feel like the technology was stolen.
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then why do some cost more and others dont? i think this isnt based on looks, rather the actual technology involved. otherwise this case is stupid, all brands would sue eachother if baseball bats and tennis shoes all had a similar idea. you dont need to make abstract shapes for a phone to be a phone company. i feel like the technology was stolen.

the technology for the phones are similar in that they all have a processor, ram, gps units, transmitters and receivers etc. And to be fair, some phones do use the same parts as competitors but they're bought from 3rd parties. Samsung makes the iphone's screens IIRC.

This case really is about how similar they look and feel.

Some cost more than others because there are cheaper parts to be used and they can be assembled in plants with lower QC for less money etc. But there's also the issue of brand power and marketing.
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to be fair they did have those documents from samsung which was diagrams of iphones and what they should copy written in red pen.
not saying that apple doesnt do that too, but samsung should have hid it better.

hope they do something good with the money though, like help out the families of the people who killed themselves in the apple factory in china. that would be good.
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Old 08-25-2012, 09:56 AM   #74
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to be fair they did have those documents from samsung which was diagrams of iphones and what they should copy written in red pen.
not saying that apple doesnt do that too, but samsung should have hid it better.

hope they do something good with the money though, like help out the families of the people who killed themselves in the apple factory in china. that would be good.

No, they'll just convert a corner of every Apple store into a Steve Jobs shrine. That will use iconography suspiciously similar to that of another branded religion.
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Old 08-25-2012, 10:09 AM   #75
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Old 08-25-2012, 10:22 AM   #76
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And here we are, a jury in the United States, saying that Samsung plagiarized their designs, while Germany favoured Samsung, South Korea favoured Samsung, the Netherlands favoured Samsung, and I'm pretty sure the rest of the countries that matter favoured Samsung as well in their judgement.

Way to go USA !

Nope, they have about equal victories and defeats. Keeping in mind that Samsung has also sued preemptively in some markets, most countries have dismissed both sides.

Anyways, Samsung is pretty great with hardware but still a piece of shit when it comes to software, devaluing their devices. They will always be inferior in that sense.
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Old 08-25-2012, 10:25 AM   #77
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Nope, they have about equal victories and defeats. Keeping in mind that Samsung has also sued preemptively in some markets, most countries have dismissed both sides.

Anyways, Samsung is pretty great with hardware but still a piece of shit when it comes to software, devaluing their devices. They will always be inferior in that sense.

Samsung's own software is pretty meh, the things they add like touchwiz, but they use Android OS, which is far superior to Apple OS which makes up for it.
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Nope, they have about equal victories and defeats. Keeping in mind that Samsung has also sued preemptively in some markets, most countries have dismissed both sides.

Anyways, Samsung is pretty great with hardware but still a piece of shit when it comes to software, devaluing their devices. They will always be inferior in that sense.

that's true, but it's easy enough to change the software.

unless you're talking about drivers etc.
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Old 08-25-2012, 10:29 AM   #79
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Wait, doesn't samsung supply apple with touchscreens and shit?
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they use Android OS, which is far superior to Apple OS which makes up for it.

Nope. Sorry, Android sucks. Shitty app market and glaring security flaws and Flash and shitty program management/background management. It also highlights the disadvantages of open systems when you chart how fragmented the market is based on which version of Android individual devices are using.

But at the end of the day it all depends on what the user wants. To say either is "far superior" is just laughable.
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