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Old 09-04-2012, 12:03 PM   #1
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Advice on complete gear revamp

Since getting back into playing I've found the gear I accumulated in the past to be pretty sub-par. Didn't really know what I was doing in my teen years and I'm looking to rectify that.

Current gear:
Marshall MG250DFX
Marshall MG15CDR
DOD Death Metal Distortion pedal
Korg DT-10 pedal tuner

The only thing I'll probably keep is the Korg tuner, the rest I'll sell/trade. I'm mostly looking at a combo amp due to space restrictions (apartment).

Budget (for amp): 400-600usd. New or used, doesn't matter so long as it works.
Style: Metal and lots of it, some rock.
Pupose: I'd like to get back into a band so something that can hold its own at a small gig, but it'll mostly be for home practices.
Location: South of Boston
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Old 09-04-2012, 12:10 PM   #2
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What kind of metal? 80s? Or more modern? Any loudness restrictions at your apartment?

And in before 6505/XXX/JSX recommendations!
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Old 09-04-2012, 12:31 PM   #3
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What kind... its always been a blend of styles. Thrash/death mostly and more modern sounding. Old band I used to be in, we still jam off and on: http://www.myspace.com/bandbeyondgoodandevil (sorry if it doesn't work, can't view myspace at work but hopefully its still an active page).

I don't play very loud at my apartment just out of respect for my neighbors but there is no restriction.
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Old 09-04-2012, 12:49 PM   #4
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You're gonna get a lot of recommendations for 5150s/6505s. -Tube
If you can find an old Peavey ultra that would be an awesome amp.-Tube
Maybe a Randall Century 100 I think is what they're called-Solid State
Some sort of Blackstar-Hybrid
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Old 09-04-2012, 01:02 PM   #5
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For that budget, it's pretty hard to go wrong with a used 5150/6505. You'll have to go with a combo and the American made 212 combo is better built than the Chinese 6505+ 1x12. That or one of the 40w XXX combos. Or the Ultra. The 6505 is the most modern. I'd probably also look at some sort of clean boost (Joyo Vintage OD for $35!) and maybe a 10 band EQ pedal. But those aren't 100% needed, just a recommendation.
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Old 09-04-2012, 01:06 PM   #6
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The 6505 is the most modern.


I agree with your post for the most part, but isn't the 6505+ supposed to be the modern one? Less gain and better cleans to make it suitable for more music styles? I'm not arguing or questioning you, I'm just wondering
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Old 09-04-2012, 01:18 PM   #7
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Old 09-04-2012, 01:25 PM   #8
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You probably DO NOT want a 2x12 in an apartment. I've done that before and it has a bad habit of pissing people off even when it's quiet enough to talk over because it moves so much air even at low volumes...

And an 1x12 will cut it FINE with band. Personally I would look into an AC15 or a similarly sized combo and push it with a good distortion or fuzz smoothed out by and overdrive. Maybe a noise gate?
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You probably DO NOT want a 2x12 in an apartment. I've done that before and it has a bad habit of pissing people off even when it's quiet enough to talk over because it moves so much air even at low volumes...

And an 1x12 will cut it FINE with band. Personally I would look into an AC15 or a similarly sized combo and push it with a good distortion or fuzz smoothed out by and overdrive. Maybe a noise gate?


Did you read his post at all?
TS Amps have master volumes for a reason.
I would try and grab that Triple X stack
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Old 09-04-2012, 01:36 PM   #10
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Old 09-04-2012, 01:54 PM   #11
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Thanks for all the replies, great responses here. I'll probably try a few out at the nearby GC and get a feel for their tones while I sell what I have now.
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Thanks for all the replies, great responses here. I'll probably try a few out at the nearby GC and get a feel for their tones while I sell what I have now.


This is exactly what you should do. Best way to decide your new gear is to try it.
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Old 09-04-2012, 10:28 PM   #13
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I agree with your post for the most part, but isn't the 6505+ supposed to be the modern one? Less gain and better cleans to make it suitable for more music styles? I'm not arguing or questioning you, I'm just wondering


Modern as in modern voicing.
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You probably DO NOT want a 2x12 in an apartment. I've done that before and it has a bad habit of pissing people off even when it's quiet enough to talk over because it moves so much air even at low volumes...

And an 1x12 will cut it FINE with band. Personally I would look into an AC15 or a similarly sized combo and push it with a good distortion or fuzz smoothed out by and overdrive. Maybe a noise gate?



I agree with this guy, if you use a 2x12 in a small space, the pure volume of moved air creates a vacuum which could cause permanent damage to your apartment.
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